U.S.: Iran not building nukes (CNN)

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  1. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #62
    So pingpong, are you going to answer the question or just spew mindless hostilities?

    Where are you from? Where are your parents from?
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Or, the U.S. could step back and let Israel and Western Europe be victimized by nuclear blackmail.

    Although we may have great sympathy for the embattled democracy currently surviving in Israel, our love for our European brethren has taken quite a beating in the last decade.

    There is a growing isolationist movement in the U.S. which believes that the cure for all of our nations ills is secure borders -- as if a chainlink fence would work to stop a Mexican gardener and 100% cargo inspection would stop a ship loaded with a nuclear bomb from detonating in one of our ports.

    I hate to say this, but the next defense of civilization may be up to you guys alone. We've done it twice now and it seems that we may not have the moral strength to do it again. The U.S. may have lost its way, its courage, it's resolve, and its strength.

    If you Europeans cannot handle the next one alone, our combined civilization may be doomed.

    Islam is a much younger civilization. It is more aggressive and more virile. Its members are far more willing to reproduce and far more willing to spread their beliefs by any means available to them.

    Western civilization, which we share, is old and decadent. It's decaying. It has lost its older virtues and failed to replace them with new ones. We lack the fortitude of mind to feel that we are worth saving. We have replaced healthy introspection with morbid self loathing.

    Our technological strength gives us an edge, but that edge is meaningless when the civilization lacks the moral strength to use those technologies in our own self defense.
     
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  4. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #64
    You need help.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #65
    What an amazingly unintelligent reply.

    Are you new to just English, or perhaps to language in general?

    If you have any intelligent to say, please do share.

    I anxiously await any scrap of intelligent discourse from you.
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 22, 2007 IP
  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #66
    earl:

    I apologize; sort of. For some reason, I had it wedged in my head that you were British. I see in your location field that you are in Virginia.

    I can't really apologize, as that would be a terrible affront to our brothers who are British.

    There's really nothing wrong with being British; well nothing that any decent dentist couldn't fix. :cool:

    But still, I apologize for implying that you are European. With the current tensions between our two halves of the same culture, some could take that for a terrible insult.

    The rest of my argument still stands. :)
     
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  7. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #67
    Anyone here see the irony in this post?
     
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  8. Grafstein

    Grafstein Peon

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    #68
    nope,no irony going on here,all i see is a anti-westerner trying to argue with non-intelligent posts.
    Read a Book or something-even wikipedia works!
    Btw i think users with red rep shouldnt be able to post in the P&R forum.
     
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  9. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #69
    That would be a bit unfair, one group could force others out of discussion for no other reason than not agreeing with them.
     
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  10. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #70
    I am a westerner, except I am not a white supremecest like you, nor am I anti Muslim, like you, I also type in sentances, unlike you.
     
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  11. earthfaze

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    Ahh, but the quality of those "sentances" should be important too. I don't think I have ever read anything by Will that I agreed with but I truly feel he actually makes an attempt at individual thought...
     
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  12. ablaye

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    #72
    Of course. We all know how much Israel wants the US to attack Iran so that Israel can remain unchallenged in the Middle East.
    I hope that this time the true american patriots will be smart enough NOT to let themselves fooled by the Israeli.

    It seems that Israel has sent a delegation to the US to try to convince americans that Iran is seeking nukes so that the US may start yet another war to benefit Israel.

    Israeli delegation heads to U.S. to argue Iran still seeking nuclear arms

    We all know the old chinese proverb:
    "Fool me once, Shame on you. Fool me twice, Shame on me."
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

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    #73
    There are about 6 million Israeli's. There are about a billion Muslims.

    Do you really believe that the Israeli's dominate the Middle East? :rolleyes:


    Were they all Jewish bankers? :rolleyes:
     
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    #74
    The Israeli intelligence is a lot better than the US in Iran.

    Case in point. The recent bombing of a North Korean supplied nuclear facility on Syria.
     
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    #75
    It's more serious for them. When the Iranians finish developing their nuclear weapon, the consequences for us are great annoyance. The consequences for the Israeli's are total subjugation under an authoritarian Islamist regime.

    It is the end of their freedom and their democracy. It's jizyah forever. It is the total end of their way of life.
     
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    #76
    Last I heard that still wasn't even close to being proven, anything change since then?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #77
    You completely miss the point or you don't want to see the truth.
    This is the case of the death merchants from the warmongering nation of Israel coming to the US to sell another war.
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

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    #78
    "Warmongering nation of Israel" -- because they want to stay alive? :rolleyes:

    It's funny how a simple desire not to be murdered makes on a "warmonger" -- to the people who are trying to murder you. :rolleyes:
     
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    #79
    If he had been in Rwanda during the time of their troubles, I suspect he would have accused the Tutsis burned to death in churches of provoking their Hutu murderers by, among other things, pleading for their lives.
     
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    Well, nearly all of us! :D
     
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