U.S.: Iran not building nukes (CNN)

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  1. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #41
    Really? I'd like to see some official references via the political sphere to back this claim up.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #42
    Is "completely silly"? a personal attack?
     
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    earthfaze Peon

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    #43
    If it is a personal attack then honest discussion is impossible :D
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #44
    "completely silly" is a sentence fragment.

    "You are completely silly" is a personal attack.

    "I'm sorry, but that's completely silly" is a statement about an argument, not about a person.

    A "personal attack" must be against "a person."

    Does that make sense to you?
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #45
    Ok, how do we define a person?
     
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  6. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #46
    I'm still waiting for you to stop playing footsy with the others and answer my above question and provide a response, or will you ignore it because you can't like Gatech normal does? Sad to think I'm a republican to, what has my party turned into.
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #47
    M-W.com usually helps me with questions like this...
     
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Hmm I am not sure what to believe ?? , U.S. also said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.Maybe they understood that they lost credibility and trust and they are trying a new strategy :D
    Hmm U.S. is telling then it is a lie , hmm this means Iran is building nukes.
     
    zangief, Dec 4, 2007 IP
  9. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #49
    It's a sick idea, but it just might work in their favor lol!
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #50
    It might not be logical but it means Iran is being nice & are now at peace with the west, israel & everything else :rolleyes:
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #51
    I'm almost positive you've claimed to be a democrat before. Perhaps there is some political expediency taking place? Remember, as a liberal or RP supporter, you are not accountable for dishonesty. So there is some benefit there.
     
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    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    #52
    Lol Republican and child molester roll hand in hand, how could you call democrats dishonest. Sheesh Huckabee being a GOP member AND a minister, that's a sure fire scandal waiting to happen >.>
     
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    #53
    The mossad has information that the american report on Iranian nuclear capability is inaccurate.

    It's true that the Irians as well as Lybia got scared after the Iraq invasion and halted their nuclear program.

    Howver, the Iranians will be able to quickly build a bomb once they are able to enrich enough uranuim.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #54
    Gtech, again, some more nonsense based on half truths. How much blood do we have from installing the non elected non popular shah in iran? Maybe you and will spencer can give us a history lesson here? I guess when we do it its different cause we can do whatever we want:).

    Again 1953 we took out the popularly elected mossadegh(time magazine man of the year 1951) through covert operation ajax and backed up and installed the shah who had one of the most brutal secret police ever in the savak. How much did the commopn iranian people suffer from these actions????? watch people as he will deny that we did this even though this is a fact. If iran right now came into the usa covertly and helped to install a president that was more favorable to them gtech and will spencer will be screaming bloody murder.

    Bogart and of course we should believe the mossad. ever read their official motto????????????????? Mossad's official motto: "By way of deception, thou shalt do war!


    Loving your country means speaking the truth and the facts no matter who did what. Even if it was our government doing it. Now i dont know if iran has nukes or not(they could very well have em they could very well not) but it seems like every government is coming out with different facts to support or deny claims.
    the current leader of iran isnt someone i would trust for sure because they are also funding militias within a state like hezbolla which are hold weapons illegally.
    If our government could just appologize for their role for all of this in the 1950's maybe they could gain the trust of the iranian students because they are suffering most from the current iranian government, indirectly from our past actions in iran.
     
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    #55
    pingpong123:

    Where are you from?
     
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    grab my heat Banned

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    #56
    He's Lebonese I think.
     
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    #57
    pingpong123 is right and where he is from should not really matter if he is saying the truth. Why are you trying to discredit him? You are sounding more and more like Fox Jews...I mean Fox News.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #58
    I have a feeling that when pingpong implies that he is an American, there is some amount of dishonesty going on.

    Only pingpong's own words can discredit him.

    I'm (mostly) Irish and the owner of FoxNews is Australian.

    However, I would not in any way be embarrassed or ashamed to be Jewish.

    Next time, think up a better insult.
     
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  19. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #59
    Regardless of how the report on Iran's nuclear program was reported in the press I still see Iran as a highly dangerous nation. They have a nuclear program. They have been building missles that can reach Israel, WESTERN EUROPE, and reportedly the East Coast of the US. They have stated they want nuclear weapons and they want to destroy Israel.

    The NIE report was written with complete language that spoke in probabilities. The aggregate best minds and best efforts of 16 different US intelligence agencies can't guarantee absolute knowledge about the current status of Iranian efforts with regard to its Nuclear intentions.

    Obviously the US had no idea what was going on in Iraq with regard to development of any form of WMD.

    I read one article by one retired intelligence officer who spoke to how difficult it is to access information of this sort. Any nation engaging in development of nuclear weapons or any sort of nuclear capability wraps all involved in a huge and overwhelming veil of secrecy that is incredibly difficult to penetrate. The US did that when it developed the first atomic bomb.

    In any case IMHO the US should go forward still concerned about the dangers associated with Iran.
     
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  20. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Didnt you claim to be a republican before and not a neocon?
    I think those 2 stances have nothing to do with each other.
    Im trying to get some one line copy and pastes but i cant seem to find any on this, gtech can you help me out here:(.

    Actually the nationality of the owner of fox news means absolutely nothing here. The fact that hes a neocon means something. I wonder what his views are on how we helped to destroy democracy in iran in the 1950's, probably teh same as will spencers view. Its incredible how you can see the bad that one side does yet are completely oblivious to what teh other has been proven to have done from history.

    Or maybe you dont know much about history:)

    If Ron Paul loses it will mean another 4 years of a puppet president, which means Ron paul will get elected by 2012 at least if not 2008.
     
    pingpong123, Dec 22, 2007 IP