U.S. develops 14-ton super bomb, bigger than Russian vacuum bomb

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  1. Grafstein

    Grafstein Peon

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    #21
    The United States needs to protect herself by any means.
     
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  2. Isaac

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    #22
    That is a bomb of very great size.
     
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  3. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Thank the lord we have some sane people in this world like ron paul. I say we use this bomb, get rid of the current leadership in iran, then work on a way of bringing mossadegh back from teh dead and make him leader, then take him out because he wouldnt (again) give us controlling interest in iranian oil field , then bring the shah back from the dead and install him as our puppet again and then fund huis brutal secret police to torture the majority iranian population that didnt vote for him, then they will all turn blindly out of their hate for our meddling in their country to islamic findamentalists and we can start the cycle of making our military industrial complex fat, rich and powerful again while ignoring the financial plight of our country's middle and poor class who end up paying for this military buildup.


    YESSSSS, it makes total SENSE LETS BOMB IRAN NOW!!!!!!!!! I can now see the logic of the mindless neocons on dp:), Thanks guys for helping me see the light. GRoup hug to my new neocon buddiesssssssssss.;)
     
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  4. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #24
    First the united states has to stop meddling in teh affairs of other countries. If you knew your iranian history you would know we destroyed any chances for democracy in iran in the 1950's. Can you start reading up now please, maybe then you can come up witha response that is more in depth and explains why this current leader is in power in iran and how to prevent our power-hungry military industrial complex from doing this again.
     
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  5. Grafstein

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    #25
    America protects the innocent not the unworthy
     
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  6. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Grafstein, you obviously dont read much history do you. Did they protect the innocent when they overthrew
    mossadegh who was no threat to them in any way and was the democratically elected president of iran in the 1950's? Wow, looks like another one liner answer from a neocon:).

    I got another question for everyone, Is ignorance and blindness an excuse not to go out and get educated about our governments foreign policy in the world????
    This info can be found even in the library of national congress so it cant be disputed by even neocons.
    We helped to destroy any chance of democracy in iran in the 1950's and instead supported a brutal dictator (the shah) and brought him to power against the wishes of the iranian people and helped to train and fund his secret police who were among the most brutal of all time(the savak) . they eventually rebelled against this secret police and this brutal dictator and were so blind and desperate they allowed the khomeini to come to power. All of this can ge laid at the feet of what we did in iran in 1953.

    Anyone that wants to debate this can pick up a beginners guide to our foreign policy history and start reading.
    whats the quote?" reading is fundamental"

    Im waiting for the one line rebuttal with no explanation or information:)
     
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  7. gauharjk

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    #27
    I agree with you... US governments have done more for their private corporations and their profits than for any good cause. Virtually every latin American country hates US government and its warmongering politicians.

    But I think US did the right thing by removing Saddam. Now, they should leave . Haliburton isn't gonna get any contracts, mind you.

    US did the right thing by helping in the Kosovo war, only was about 10 years late. Why didn't US help them when people were being killed?

    US has done nothing to help the people in Darfur. Nothing at all.

    US is funding seperatists in Somalia, and pumping in money and weapons to Ethiopia so that Somalia remains in a state of continuous civil war. Thats dumb!

    I don't believe the present US government, with all their "American-global-empire" lobbying groups and "take-over-the-world" think tanks cares one bit about democracy or freedom in the world. This has to change.

    An Amrican President is the strongest and most influential person in the world. You have to make the right choice.

    Ron Paul is the best candidate I've ever seen. He actually speaks the truth for a change (unlike normal politicians), and his ideas are crystal clear. I believe he is the best candidate to govern a Super-Power.
     
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  8. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Its amazing how Grafstein and the other neocons just suddenly start ignoring me when i present the facts on the table. This is the only way you can debate with someone . You present irrefutable facts. I have to disagree with you on saddam hussein. yes he was a dictator, yes he was ruthless and yes he disposed of all his enemies, but if you look at iraq now and look at iraq when he was in power which option u think the iraqi people wanted, and anyone gullible enough to believe we took saddam out because our government cared for the poor iraqi people are foolish. Our government stood silently when he gassed ten thousand kurds. Where was the warmth and compassion then? What a joke. Mossadegh wasnt the only leader we took out with covert operations. I would suggest anyone who really wants to learn about our foreign policy from the 1950's till 15 years ago should get a copy of " the secret team" by colonel fletcher prouty. Prouty was the former head of weapons procurement for black operations in foreign countries. Qasm of iraq was another promising leader that we helped to take down because he wanted to nationalize iraqi oil.

    People knowledge is power and to understand the past is something that will help us as the american people to never be taken advantage of again.
    True patriots are knowledgable, true patriots care for our fellow soldiers and wont throw them out to the wolves for a lie.
    Ron Paul had the courage to say what iw as posting on this board for a year about mossadegh. I swear when he said this on national tv i gave him a personal standing ovation. he is a man with real character and honor who really cares for the american people. He earned my respect months ago.:)





     
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  9. wisdomtool

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    #29
    I enjoyed reading your posts, but a little point I would beg to differ

    1. But I think US did the right thing by removing Saddam. Now, they should leave . Haliburton isn't gonna get any contracts, mind you.

    I do not think so, by doing so they disrupt the delicate relations and power sharing between the Shiites, Sunnis and the Kurds. Saddam is a despot but he manage to maintain some sort of order in Iraq. After removing Saddam, Iran and Syria are both trying to claim their rights over the respective population of Iraq.

    To leave now would leave behind a power vacuum which could not be fill by any powers in the region as they are simply not strong enough. Anarchy may results. Those that benefits from such chaos would be USA enemies and terrorists. Iraq is the 4th largest oil producing country in the world (correct me if I am wrong).

    Middle East isn't that stable in the first place, the chaos in Iraq can easily fan the unrest of the minorities of the neigboring countries in the Middle East be it Shiites, Sunnis or Kurdish. Middle East as the main oil producing region is too critical for USA to leave it in a mess.


     
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  10. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Why do you think the power elite neocons got our military in there. they knew once in iraq it would be very very difficult to get them out of there.
    there was a method to their madness, and this is why if anotehr puppet gets elected they will just find another iraq or vietnam in the next 10 years.
     
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  11. webwork

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    #31
    Building a bomb this big. Why? What do we need a bomb this big for?

    Who are we going to dump this big gigantic piece of crap on?

    Humanity...needs...to...grow...up.
     
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  12. gauharjk

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    #32
    Humanity is only 5000 year old... that makes it very young...

    We need a 1000 more years, that's it... :D I promise humanity will be mature enough by then.:p
     
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  13. The Webmaster

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    #33
    The Bomb in the question is a bunker buster, figure yourself where a medium yield bunker buster bomb can be used. A Bomb with 14 ton yield is not Gigantic.
     
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  14. Valley

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    #34
    Yes 90% tax on military grade munition sales
     
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  15. Valley

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    #35
    Retarded is a way of slowing the bomb so that the delivery agent .. plane does not get fragged by it's own blossom.

    These bombs are so totally different


    Russian Bomb
    Very destructive.
    Real reason is to expend oxgen due to burning all the air.
    never understood the vacuum bit. It makes men suffocate in holes. Knocks them unconsious, winds them, makes the ears bleed. Like being kicked in lovespuds with a plastic bag on head.

    14 Tonner.
    Don't know why they built it. It needs guidance, laser or military GPS. Sure for going through sand or soil, but heck, the ones from 10 years ago would do that. Who makes it incidentally as possibly aimed at export market. NATO has dozens of bunker busters anyway! Budget gone for these as old technology. New technolo:confused:gy is a rocket assisted version with a smaller payload, occasionaly depleted U rod inside
     
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    #36
    You lost me there.. Was it a technical term?

    The Vacuum bomb consumes oxygen very fast, thus temporarily creates a vacuum so within the blast radius, anyone surviving from the tremendous shockwave, toxic mixed agents, and the flames will die because his lungs will explode.

    The existing bunker busters are not effective against Nuke shelters or very large bunkers. This bomb has the effects of a nuke, but within a very limited area and there will be no nuclear fall outs.
     
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  17. Valley

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    #37
    Retarded just means it gets as parachute of some sort.

    Ouch sounds like napalm

    LOL
    They are for penetrating friendlies I suspect then!
     
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    #38
    Okay, I think you learn something new everyday...

    Yes much like Napalm but way too more dangerous and effective.
    Well many hostile countries have large bunkers, and even larger underground facilities.
     
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    #39
    Khashoggi...:D

    Is it the 'penetrator sucking bomb' or just the mega 'dilapidator Z900' H-bomb?
    Because then, I think the 'A19' H2SO4 'Expander' Bomb can make more than the already old (and expensive) 'souffleur' viral exterminator BX 'flat' bomb...
    Don't be confused with the 'chou-fleur' fart bomb...This one is not use anymore...
     
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  20. Valley

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    #40
    Is that a newer version of the Rabbit ?
     
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