Two million Muslims prepare to stone devil at haj. Another proof Islam is a relgion o

Al Haj is one the 5 pillars of Islam, you only make Haj if you can. It's not a religious duty Know as Fard or Farida.

If you cannot afford to go to Haj, you don't have to.

 

What a relief!

 

You make out that the other monotheist religions are better. I'm more at home criticising that which I was born into but have since rejected. The one that Tony Blair converted to but took as his own when he led his country into his Holy War and the one that gives sanction to the misogynists in the Church of England. It was totally corrupted as soon as the men with hidden agendas took over, Emperor Constantine being the first, and hasn't recovered - up until recently it harboured child abusers in it ranks in Ireland - don't get me started on the Popes!

 

If only he had been an atheist when he agreed to honor his NATO obligations. Then we could call it an Atheist Holy War? Or is it that the state is secular so this is a Secular war against Islam? Or is it a war on Terrorists/Radical Islam? How about against the London Train Station Bombers... I prefer to call it a battle of the faithful against the evil forces of Xenu.

I suppose it just depends on what your smoking. Maybe a bit more religion would help you put down the crack pipe. I'm sure the idea of Tony Blair as president of the EU sends a thrill up your leg.

 

Tony Bliar is not the EU President but it did seem he would be but, no, it caused no such thrill more an

Are you serious about the crack pipe reference? I'm feeling your hostility perhaps a little less religion would help or lay off the booze. Myself I don't smoke anything but I do study History. I'm not about to stop that.

 

Devil likes to get stoned, He likes good weed

 

Perhaps you should refrain from phrases like "Tony Blair's holy war" and I'll lay off the crack pipe references . If you can really believe something like that, I'm sure you could believe just about anything.

 

Tony Bliar's Holy War actually. You are trying to reason with people or argue your case by insulting, threatening and bullying them - did you work for W Bush? Watch The Trial Of Tony Blair - you'd really like it, it wouldn't upset you and if you've a heart problem - it'll be fine - really, you'll be fine - just lay of your medication and watch it.

 

Provide the link. That way we can all argue the merits of the information you are apparently amongst the few that are privy to. Before I ask, did you also watch Loose Change and Fahrenheit 9-11 and call them credible documentaries? Just need to get an idea of what you are willing to call credible.

 

The Trial of Tony Blair in which many a true word is spoken in jest - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-trial-of-tony-blair

See there you go, I happen to believe that your hostile attitude to anything and anyone outside your camp is doing more harm than good. For having the temerity for stating this I must be a "crack smoker". You really should look at History for a true measure of how ridiculous you are - take Northern Ireland for instance - even with the bigots (both sides) they had to open a dialogue - and now they sit down together and 95% of the population prefer living there and the death rate among young soldiers and innocent men, women and children is virtually nil. Would the involvement of people like you have brought that about? No.

You really believe that because I'm in a minority in this thread that your hateful, violence inciting perspective has validity? I suppose you do. I'm sure pointing it out won't stop you and the people who make money from conflicts will thank you. You continue to do Obama a disservice despite his healthy majority (in the real world not a thread on a remote forum) so even when you're in a tangible minority you think you're correct. My writing anything more is a waste of time.

That's all I'm prepared to say because I've better matters to attend to.

 

True words spoken in jest? Please. Next you'll start citing Saturday Night Live as a credible source in a political debate. Sure the jokes are based on real world events but exaggeration is what makes them funny. Their idea that Obama has done nothing in his first year in office is as ridiculous as the Sarah Palin "I can see Russia from my house" line(Both of which were very funny, and based on real events). Provide some real evidence to substantiate the words Tony Blair's "Holy War", or accept the fact you sound like a lunatic when you say them.

Pleasant change of topic since your previous words are indefensible. Thank you. I'll grant you that elevated tones in a discussion do nothing to lower the violence. Thankfully, I don't work for the state department. In fairness though, your perpetuation of lies and half truths, and continued focus on things that will never bring a peaceful end to this conflict represent the reason we are over 70 years out from the formation of Israel without peace. I gather from your comments that you are in the camp that believes Israel is an illegal state, and should not exist. If so, I'm sure you realize your beliefs are in the minority on an international basis, and actually in violation of international law. The rest of the civilized world recognizes Israel as a legitimate state, while they do not do the same for Palestine.

If I use the words "Crack Smoker" or "Delusional", please don't take it as an insult. I use the same words in application to people within the United States who think they can make a living robbing quicki-marts, or those who think California should be given back to the Mexicans, or those who think other parts of the states should be given back to the Native Americans. Sure there is an outside chance that any of those things could happen, but for the most part, they just aren't living in reality.

More problems created by Great Britain. It is curious to see two sides sitting down and coming to an agreement. Now imagine if N.Ireland refused to acknowledge the right of Great Britain to exist, and continually shot rockets across the pond, and asked for Great Britain to be wiped from the map? I know, its not that comparable, but hey, your the guy who brought it up.

I'm not obligated to do Obama anything, nor is any other American. Half the country thinks he is a jackass, and frankly, I could care less about his International popularity. He isn't spending their money. As applied to this discussion, he has not discontinued any of the financial and military aid going to Israel, so I'm not sure why you are such a big fan. We in America speak out against our leadership when we disapprove of their actions. It is why prolonged foreign wars are so difficult to wage. Now why is it the Palestinians can't do the same for Hamas? Answer: Because they don't disapprove of their words or actions.

Feel free to quit at any time.

 

Are we really nearly in 2010 ? It seems to me we're really in 1010, in dark ages, with so many people still swallowing all those bullshits about imaginary friend called God, nobody wants to grow up?

 

So Islam is religion of violence. Are you sure that Christianity and all the other religions don't promote violence , hate , death and destruction ? Through t the history millions of people got killed because they believed in fery tale religious books. What is the benefit of any religion to humanity ? 10 commandments ? A 10 year old now the difference of doing good and Bad. If god relay exists why does he need people to pray to him every day ? Is god an insecure creature that needs humanity to bring his confidence level up by praying to him every day ? If Jesus really existed and he died to take away all sins from humans and send all humans to heaven. Why do i need to bother to do any good in this world and go to church to make my priest filthy rich? I am going to go to heaven any ways no matter what i do because Jesus took all my sins.
If there was no religion our planet earth would be heaven. Without all the fary tale religious believes we would all live in peace and harmony.

 

Hmm I'm not naive enough to believe that without religions humans would not have a lot of other reasons to make war and be mean to each others in general! But we simply don't need religion because it's false, because it's bullshit, that's a good enough reason.

 

If religion sized to exist shurley millions of people will not dye and hate each other. I believe that religion is the primary course of most of the wars and hate in the world.

 

True.