GKD, I don't know if your post is directed to me. But if so, a couple of things. If you'll read my post, and what it responded to, M5Love indicated: In other words, justifiable violence over anger. And I stand by what I said. I am sick and tired of seeing violence meted out over some perceived "insult to Islam," "the Prophet," or whatever the hell other insult is perceived. Al Qaeda doesn't give a damn, and neither do any of its lesser variants. It simply wants the end of modern civilization. Secondly, no, I can't be certain, of course; none of us can ever be. Although this wasn't what I said (I was responding to M5Love's apologetics), since you ask the question, I have listened to several analysts who corroborate what the Indian state minister has indicated - that given several markers and characteristics of the bombing, it is very likely an Islamic group.
M5Love, as with your comments on a women being raped, her punishment for the "crime," and the requirements for condemning those who should rightfully be charged (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=412322&page=6&highlight=rape, I am only responding to what you say. Here: Apologetic: defending something in speech or writing Your quote: Again, please: if you don't want a response to your words, don't use them. I stand by what I said.
northpointaiki, the post was not directed at you. It was not redirected at no one. I just joined the discussion. I agree with you that muslims do care about each other. I do not see anything wrong with that. Secondly, why should another country invade another country when there is no reason to invade. e.g. Bush invaded Iraq for Weapons of Mass detruction. Millions of people demonstrated against the War around the world, but were not listened to. Finally, No weapons of Mass destruction were found but thousands of people were and are currently being killed. No one would like their countries/homes being invaded and loved ones killed. Invasions cause killings of innocent people. I would not be happy if someone invaded my country/home and harmed my loved ones and I don't think any one else would.
I don't think that is true. The "justifiable violence" (if there is such a thing) seems to be predominantly over occupation. First it was occupation of Saudi Arabia, and now occupation of Iraq. Can you imagine the things Americans would do if the Russians had invaded, to liberate us from democracy into communism? I think that is how a lot of radical Islamists see it. I'm not saying it is right, but if we are to win (whatever that means at this point), it's helpful to know your enemy.
That's not what I meant. The spark I was talking about is the invasion of a Muslim country (results in killing of the innocent) this just puts more anger in the Muslim's heart for the invader which then results in violence! I do not support ANY violence because of insults to Islam by drawing pictures of our Prophet because the Prophet wouldn't of responded that way. The Prophet Muhammad said, "the strong is not he who wins in a wrestling match - the strong is the one who can overpower his ego at the time of anger."
I agree, in many ways, Guerilla, and these are some of the demands promulgated by Al Qaeda. But beyond, is a declared goal of a return to the Caliphate, with a puritanical vision of Islam, worldwide. Which helps to explain why many, even in Iraq, have begun to say "hell no" to such a vision for the future (past). From what I have read of its ideological origins, including the early Muslim Brotherhood and offshoots (read, Milestones, by Sayyid Qutb, for instance), it is a wholesale rejection of western culture, with an appropriated justification to violence globally - jihad without limits, so long as this extreme vision remained unimposed.
Then I stand corrected, and apologize. Sadly, I also say, your view makes you an apostate under the vision of Al Qaeda and its ilk, and makes you, and me, worthy of death.
Here's an article written by a Radford University student on the Anger over the cartoons... good read:
What the fuck America, Saddam or the Iraq invasion has to do with these blasts in Hyderabad? India has it's own problems with these frantic terrorists, it has nothing to do with America's war with other countries....
Nah mate, haven't you been reading the Nixon Gang? They say Al Queda is everywhere, in America, Mexico, India, Canada and Iceland. They even say that there are DPers who are Al Queda sympathizers. In a way, this is good for India. Blame it on someone else. Works for GWB.
My seo was headed to that same spot that day but was delayed. Thank god he wasnt early. Talk about a narrow escape. My prayers and sympathies go out to the people who died and their families. Most likely a terrorist act commited by the kashmiri sympathizers. This is a brutal terrorist act commited by beasts. No way in heck there is an excuse for this , I DONT CARE WHAT THE REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoever did this isnt even an animal cause animals kill to eat and survive
Its funny how India always blames Pakistan for such horrendous acts: This statement came just minutes after the blast and the blame game continues... Such allegations without any proof ? I don't understand why India is having peace talks with Pakistan then. This is similar to the mumbai-blast allegation which India couldn't prove. And this is a nice response I think Indian politicians must sort out the terrorist problems in their own country before making such big allegations on their neighbour country. And i wish all behind these attacks are caught or killed.
What has bush, Iraq to do with Indian problems. The problem of Islamic turbulence there well before Bush assumed office or invaded Iraq. The problem with you people is that Instead of condemning the acts you will always try to justify it one way or other. Indian partition was again creation of Muslim radicals. Wherever these brutal acts are performed you will have an excuse to justify it. Some place it is Bush, at others it is Jews , in India it is Army or Hindus, in china it is communist or Buddhists, in parts of Africa it is Christians, in Pakistan it is Mushraff, in Thailand or Indonesia it is pro democracy groups...........Don't you get sick in identifying reasons for bombing , killings etc. Why are you not categorical that terrorism is bad at least on occasions like this. We can discuss other things latter .....
Thanks Caveman, He was so scared on his trip back to calcutta that he caught a heavy fever and flu. He was supposed to go to the laser show that day of the bombing but thank god he was late. His life was spared, and he is praying for the families of the people that were killed