Turks Trying to Lynch Israely Soldiers boarding the ship 05/31/2010

Each time I read how these Zionist neo-fascists say that those "Islamists" (from Europe, of all places!) are coming to Gaza because they want to "threaten" Israel's existence with 10,000 tonnes of food and supplies, I roll over the floor laughing. I haven't come across anyone who have died because someone threw an apple at them.

 

Yeah, right. If a muslim says something, it must be right, right?

I know a lot of muslims from different countries. It is quite common for muslims to carry knifes and to use them when fighting.
Turks carry knifes even when they go to watch soccer games. In 2002 years ago a former turkish soldier stabbed 2 English fans and killed them.

" A TURK who stabbed two English football fans to death on the eve of a UEFA Cup semi-final in Istanbul was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment yesterday.

Ali Umit Demir, 23, an unemployed former soldier, has been in jail since the incident and could be released in a further five and a half years.............. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...92950/Turk-jailed-for-killing-Leeds-fans.html

 

And vice versa when Jew say something it must be right, right?
Again, just use common sense. If they planned to butcher anyone than they were stupid as a rock to plan butcher best trained army in the world with sticks and marbles!
Take a look at footage again and tell me honestly: if they really wanted to kill someone how they failed to do that? I've watched footage several times and if they wanted (and planned) to kill anyone they had chance with first 2 or 3 soldiers who got first on board.

So, how many terrorists do you know who uses sticks, marbles and chairs to attack best trained commando forces?

 

What are you talking about? They stated their goal clearly for the camera. Their goal was martyrdom. Their goal was to die and leave people like you to whine about the evils of Israel. Had their goal been peaceful delivery of food to Gaza, they would have checked it through an Israeli port to have it inspected for weapons instead of running a blockade. They would have sat peacefully when their ship was boarded and allowed their "food supplies" to be inspected.

Instead, they attacked Israeli soldiers with enough deadly force to cause them to respond with deadly force. All in all, I say the accomplished EXACTLY what they set out to do.

 

Israel has the worst brand name in the world, and considering the behaviour, one should hardly be surprised.

 

Their goal was a clearly protest against blocade of Gaza so don't try to sell us that "Had their goal been peaceful delivery of food to Gaza, they would have checked it through an Israeli port to have it inspected" story. It was clearly protest against Israel and everyone knows how Israelis handle protests. Had it been same situation anywhere else in civilised world there wouldn't be so many dead people (I doubt there would be ANY deaths!).

Violent protests are nothing new around the world but somehow only when you attack Israelis you are terrorists using deadly force. Is the guy swinging with the chair terrorist using deadly force?

Just google it and you'll see waaaay more "deadly" forces than on that ship.

 

[video=youtube;MB-Mk4bFz-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-Mk4bFz-U[/video]

 

New video released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24

Shows the activists throw a stun grenade at the navy boat, and waiting with bats and chains.

 

You forgot to mention a guy with a chair (a plastic one to be more acurrate). He's probably al-qaeda!

 

The doctored videos from the "IDF NEWS DESK" are getting more and more creative by the minute.

 

Ah, i see there has been absolutely no change on these forums after a couple of years.
Still the same islamic haters defending their religion of peace, while spewing poison over at "Zionist pigs".

Religion of peace has yet again shown us that they are all about peace and love, and they only want to help gaza with humanitarian help - nothing more!
I mean, spurring provocation for with the intent of a clash with IDF, waiting for the soldiers (who came without weapons in arms, and a paintball gun on their backs) to perform a peace-loving lynch on them (including shooting and stabbing, as well as throwing soldiers off the deck). Sounds good so far, 1-0 to the religion of peace.
Turns out that several of the peace-loving people who got killed (rightfully, might I add) were dreaming of becoming 'shahids', noble martyrs! Even some dude from the Netherlands who was killed on that ship, had a warm and fuzzy relationship with Hamas. 2-0 to the religion of peace!
I say - Good job IDF for making dreams come true!

Check this video out, where it is clearly shown that the peace defenders were defending themselves from brutal IDF boat which haven't performed any action towards them (yet):
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3898090,00.html
It is clearly shown that the peace protesters are not carrying any weapons, and everyone there is an innocent soul!

 

You notice the protesters swinging sticks are on foot, on dry land? Perhaps you can find me some instances prior to this one of violent protesters like the ones in your photo carrying out their actions on boats. Perhaps you can explain why the other boats protested peacfully, lulling the IDF into a false sense of security. I'll grant you the IDF botched their handling of the event, but then again, I would argue that this "violent protest at sea" is something we don't have a lot of history and practice with.

 

You notice that those protesters have almost exactly the same "deadly" forces as those "terrorists" had? Does attack on Israeli soldier by some 20 yo hot head on that boat makes him terrorist and gives commands licence to kill?
The boat that was attacked carried majority of activists and if you ever saw (or participated) in any kind of protests you know that crowd is dangerous thing. Protestors on picture I've posted are probably south koreans protesting about some minister having affair or something like thatand now imagine them protesting something really seriously!

Lemme just investigate that "violent protest at sea" thingy and I will get back to you

If getting sticks,chairs and chains to fight with police (military) makes someone terrorists than whole world is full of them!

 

Do that. Your picture demonstrates what are considered tried and true methods of dealing with angry mobs. Tear gas, rows of soldiers with riot shields, clubs, and non-leathal weapons. Looking at the video from the boat, Israel obviously had no such overwhelming force sitting on the deck of that boat to deal with the matter in the same way a land based protest would be dealt with. Do I think there are other ways the matter could have been dealt with in a non-lethal manor? For sure. Clearing the deck with teargas would have been a good start. Apparently, there is another floatila enroute right now. I have no doubt the Israelis are reviewing the same footage the rest of us are and doing a lessons learned in an effort to make sure the next group is dealt with in a manor creating a minimum number of injuries on both sides.

 

So now you claim that Israelis had other ways to handle situation yet they sent soldiers one by one on boat where there was a lot of violent individuals clearly showing that they will defend (if we can use that word in this matter) boat with everything they have?
I simply cant' believe that they weren't aware of situation before sending soldeirs one by one from heli and that makes me wonder why they did that.

 

Is this a serious thread? If you were in international waters and had Israelis with guns boarding you're ship when they have no right would you just stand ideally by?

1. The ship was in international waters
2. The ship was already inspected before it set off
3. You clearly don't have an understanding of the definition of "Lynching".

 

EDIT: nvm...

 

You betcha there's a whole world full of them. Couldn't agree more.
Also, don't forget knives, the fact that these are "peace activists" (which is quite strange, considering the peaceful actions they have demonstrated) and of course the lynch that took place on the boat. Oh, also the fact that many of these people came in with a clear thought in mind to "battle until the end" and become martyrs.

Peace be upon all of us!

 

You simply cant believe? Why don't you make yourself aware of the facts before you make assumptions? From what I know about the situation, they were unable to disable the boat as they did some of the others, so it needed to be boarded. From what I know about the situation, almost all the other boats had no violence on arrival. One could easily assume that, since the other boats went peacefully, they expected this one to go peacefully as well. For all we know, it could have been orchestrated that way by the protesters to create exactly this situation. The point is, we don't know. You can claim Israel botched the taking of that boat, and you will likely get little disagreement from anyone, including Chaos Trivia(the resident Israeli). When you start to call them blood thirsty murderers and call for an end to the State of Israel or the completion of Hitler's work, like several are on this thread, one starts to wonder if Israel shouldn't have done the world a favor and just sank a boat filled with such people.

 

Actually, according to International law, they had every right to do so:

True. yet, the action was fully legal. There is a legal department in the IDF too, and they know how to do their job. If you claim that it was illegal, prove it. Show exactly the law that was violated. or display a real expert opinion, assuming that you are not an expert yourself.
Before you waste your time trying to find the law that was violated: please read the EU and UN condemnations of the Israeli action, you will not find a single word there about Israel violating International law - a pretty unusual thing

I want to see you condemn your own country's security forces demanding to inspect a vessel known to be hostile prior to entering your country's territorial waters, and boarding it in case they refuse to allow your country to inspect it. Even if they were "already inspected".
Somehow I have the feeling that you will not condemn them......double standards...

I thought that lynching is when a mob attacks a person or a small group of persons, much inferior in numbers.
Upon first contact, there was 1 soldier on board, and 5 rioters beating him almost to death.
In overall, 40 of the 600 flotilla passangers were terrorists, and no more than 15 IDF soldiers boarded the ship.