Turkey navy to escort aid ships to Palestinians in Gaza

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  1. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #101
    It's very simple mate..
    A country is better than the other because of the people that live there, they worked to make it better. They created opportunities that worked well for everyone. They focused on specific goals at times.

    It's not about the land, they don't come here because there is a scarcity of land in their country..

    It about opportunities. They come here to grab those opportunities, the same opportunities that they failed to create in their country.
    So my ancestors created opportunities for me, while their ancestors were busy raping the country. Now suddenly it's my fault if their country is fucked up?

    India liberated Bangladesh, We gave them land to call their own, we saved them from Pakistani atrocities. Now we have hordes of Bangladeshis flooding India illegally, why? Because India offers a better life than what they have in Bangladesh, whose fault is that? And then they talk shit about India at the very first chance they get. Not to forget many of them take the easy way of crime.

    So it works like this - you come to my country, you grab the opportunities meant for my countrymen, you are not loyal to the land providing you those opportunities, and I'm somehow expected to embrace you with open arms?
    I still don't have a problem with them coming to my country legally, If they can add something of value, they are more than welcome.. But I'm not welcoming leeches..

    I see it's not much different in USA either.
     
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    #102
    Lets pray nothing comes of these rising tensions. At the end of the day in current warfare its the innocents who die. :(
     
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  3. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #103
    Let's hope Israeli commando's don't shoot at Turkish ships.
     
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    Bushranger Notable Member

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    #104
    I guess that's where it falls down for me. I see people have to do what their government decide. That would be like blaming every American for the decision to invade Iraq or the German people for Hitler when that's not true at all. Over half of us Australians didn't want to go to Iraq (and many of us protested the thought of it) but Howard went totally against the majority and did what he wanted.

    If your argument was we don't want their scum I could understand (and agree with) that, but the argument of they're all scum is not right imho. When you look at the bigger picture I see these people are usually well-hidden with their head-down & arse up getting stuck into their work. The last thing they want to do is get into trouble because they don't want to be outed.
     
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  5. Spoiltdiva

    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #105
    No one on either side cares about a ship loaded with turkeys.:)The Israelis are concerned with ships loaded with ammo,the Palestinians are concerned with ships loaded with relief supplies.O.k. got that.......nobody cares about flipping turkeys!(or chickens,ducks,geese etc.)
     
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  6. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #106
    If someone wishes to deliver Turkeys to Gaza they should be able to do so without having to come under fire by paranoid Zionists.
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #107
    Well!.......it appears you do have a sense of humor afterall.:)
     
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  8. The Webby

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    #108
    Well that's the democracy for us.. 51% fools can rule 49% intelligent

    I never said I'm against all immigration.. If they need a better life and looking for it, they should come through legal channel and genuinely contribute in the progress of the land..
    That's all I want...
     
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  9. IsraeI

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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #110
    How does a blockade found legal become a cause for war? He wouldn't be pandering to the hating masses would he?

    Anyway, he won't do shit. Turkey is going to be all talk, no action when it comes to Israel, aside from bellowing loudly and kicking some diplomats out of Turkey, they will do nothing.
     
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  11. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #111
    There's difference of opinion if the blockade is legal or not, Turkey does not see it to be legal.
     
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  12. The Webby

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    #112
    Agreed mate, caused by Turkish ship by a deliberate try to break Israeli blockade.

    Yupp, when Turkey closes it's eyes, world cease to exist. :)
     
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  13. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #113
    So I guess he only wanted to agree with the UN Palmer report if it fits with his story, but since it vindicated Israel, he can ignore it. (Erdogan can have his own opinion, but it doesn't change the fact that the report says the blockade is legal)

    I find it almost cosmically ironic is that Turkey has its feelings hurt because Israel wont apologize for killing 9 people and yet Turkey refuses to acknowledge or apologize for their genocide of Armenians and demands nobody even talk about it. Oh well, I think our next Congress won't be so reticent to call out Turkey and Erdogan on their hypocrisy.
     
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  14. IsraeI

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    #114
    Blockade is legal according to Palmer report, it's a an opinion.
     
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  15. The Webby

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    #115
    It's a report based on investigation mate, but you can't tell the difference..

    Oh no wait, only if it happened to say that blockade was illegal, you would have been brandishing it all over the forums!!

    You are not a hypocrite, are you now? Forget this question, its rhetorical anyway.
    I love it how you get all excited by Turkish PM's statement!!
     
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  16. IsraeI

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    #116

    The Turks will be taking them to court about the 9 killed or the legality of the blockade you fail to acknowledge reports can be wrong...this is not a black and white issue.

    Why do you care about this anyway, you are from India.
     
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    #117
    What will Erdogan do if this court rules in Israels favor too? Does he have a plan D, where he farts in Israels general direction?

    Oh, I didn't know only some people get to talk about this. People from what countries are allowed to have opinions and comment?
     
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  18. IsraeI

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    #118
    DOn't know. We will have to see.

    I asked him why he cares about this, it's clear there's passion behinds his writing...perhaps he has a deep hatred for Arabs
     
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    #119

    I think he is running out of things to threaten. So he will be left with actual war or just taunting insults.
     
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  20. The Webby

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    #120
    Why do you care about Kashmir, or USA, or Turkey, or Israel, or Gaza?

    Ah, you and your hateful thinking.. You can't think of anything but hate..
    I don't have hatred for Arabs, deep or shallow.. I just have admiration for my Israeli friends...
     
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