Turkey about to launch operations into northern Iraq

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was about time

 

Here we go again same Turkish behavior pattern only difference
New day and new year

 

How come Kurds don't have their own country ?

 

This is what you call "Unite against terror" i guess

 

I really wonder why Kurds don't have their own country .... every even 100x times smaller nations have their own countries .... For example Turkey is supporting albanians to have independent country Kosovo ( which is part of Serbia) and albanians already have their own country Albania and yet turks don't allow kurds the same ..... wow this world is fcked up

 

Turkey does not interfere Serbia or support any military action within, and it is not related to this topic.

If you want Kurds have their own country you can always start a campaign to give them a state from your country for them to build one, however this topic is not about it. It is about U.S. pretending to be against terrorism and on the other hand supporting it towards Turkey.

But i'm sure none of the terror haters will post their usual topics here, since terrorism is terrorism when it's only against them. I don't expect either, just wanted to paste a breaking news.

 

They have been promised their own country since world war I and then betrayed by English. The problem is that they are divided between different countries, Iran, Iraq, Turkey and even Russia. None of these countries like lose part of it's territory and making a Kurdish country in one country, means trouble for other countries, so they all agree to fight them.

As situation gets worse and worse for USA in Iraq, it is possible that they start to think about making a friendly Kurdish state while leaving Iraq. In this case, this new country (Kurdistan) will be the new Israel in middle east that will be totally dependent on American military to survive.

 

No Turkey never interfere

Don't want to fight with you but it is interesting you know that kurds are not allowed to have their own country.....we will see what will time bring....

 

We are not talking about Kurds, Iraq or any other "COUNTRY" here. There are some groups of mountains in North Iraq with terrrorist camps in it. And they are attacking "OUR LAND", killing our soldiers. So we are calling Iraq and USA government to stop that, because they are ruling Iraq now. For 2-3 years, replies are generic "Yeah Turkey we support you, yea we are going to take care, yes we are going to look over there, ok i will be back after wc..". Do we have to wait until all our people are dead in south? No man, this world is not .... up. If there is no goverment in that land, no precautions or reactions, we will use our very own right to defend our life area. We will go clean those mountains and get out of there quickly.

We do not want Iraq soil/oil or anything.

Britishguy, what was your pattern in Basra, did you go there to protect your life cycle or what? I have very high doubt that, you fight with a group of terrorists for 20 years, that killed 30.000 of your soldiers in your very own land, England?

iatbm: Population is not enough to form a country. They can form a country only with USA support or military. They have pointed guns to all nations around in Middle East, why should we like them? They cant live here or form a country without support of Iran, Turkey, Russia and other big countries in Middle East. It may seem unlikely from there but situation is different here. Even USA is sinked down to its throat in the desserts of Iraq. Situation is getting worse, but not in our side.

We are living in these lands for over 900 years. We have every piece of right to defend our land, our people against terrorists. Its nonsense USA and UK coming across oceans here without a real reason, and preventing us to stop terrorism that has been attacking us for 20 years. Funny.

 

Some Turkish Kurds want their own country. Some just want to keep their own culture while remaining Turks. Those that want their own country have been fighting a civil war against the national government for many years.

The Kurds in Iraq have, effectively, had their own country since the first Iraq war. They battled the Iraqi government under the protection of a UK and US enforced no-fly zone between the first and current Iraq war.

Now, northern Iraq is run pretty much as a separate country, but the U.S. is keeping them from separating and taking their oil fields with them. If they do so, it is feared that will embolden Kurdish separatists in Turkey and in Iran, likely creating a huge regional war, with Iraq's northern Kurds fighting Iran, Iraq, and Turkey.

Throughout the entire Iraq War, the U.S. has tried to keep Turkey out because they believe that will get the Kurds fighting the "invading" Turks and possibly U.S. troops. Afterall, the U.S. is unlikely to go to war with a NATO ally to protect Iraqi Kurds, and allegiances can change quickly in war.

Maybe the Kurds deserve their own country. But, three countries need to agree.

 

@gworld England is not in a position to promise countries in Middle East to anyone. It is as irreleveant as we be promising english black community a country in some part of UK.

@iatbm There is no seperate land issue as Kurds are not minority in Turkey, Kurds have same rights in Turkey not 1 less and we have several Kurdish citizens as diplomats and even former ministers. There are over 10 million Kurdish citizens and their seperatist party does not even receive more than 3% vote.

This is only a terrorism caused by UK and US, and they choose to be allied by a iraqi tribe(which does not cover whole Kurds in the region just a terrorist group) support them in every way, military, educationally, financially. When you see people die in 9/11 or any US citizen die from terror, it's pretty much the same everywhere. But it's up to them to support whoever, time will show the consequences for all.

I won't respond to this topic for a while, anyone is free to abandon their regular perspective about terror in this topic, since it's not them suffering this time, some part of the world destabilized and they don't suffer from it, so why should they react..

 

If Turkey passes border, it is invading, if USA passes border is it freedom? Very nice model you have there. Turkey is the second bigger army power of Nato and one of the initial members of UN. I think the "modern world" will need to have a closer view of whom to protect there. We have been acting as a fortress against Russia in cold war for Europe, feeding 1 million armed soldier army and did not interfere with any of the Middle East countries inner business. I think we deserve a better respect about our right to protect our land. Turkey is not a small value, EU or USA can sacrifice for a group of terrorist in North Iraq.

 

I was talking about WWI when England promised Kurds to give them a country if they fight on their side against the Turks.

 

would giving the kurds their own country really help?

 

Help who? would be more appropriate.

Iraq may turn out to be Yugoslavia. Kurds are spread across more places. Damascus, Tehran, Istanbul, and Baghdad won't let it happen for Kurds. Shia and Sunni may go their own ways.

 

they may go their own ways, but they will not stop blowing each other up in the process...gotta be the one who is ACTUALLY descended from muhammed....

 

They blow themselves for money, territory and power. The same reason Americans blow themselves during independence, civil war and England, France, Germany, Austria, Russia, USA,..... blow themselves during WWI, WWII and many wars before that.

 

you really make no sense...do you realize that the war between the states was not a civil war? The definition of civil war is "trying to take control of the govt."....the south decided to form their own govt., no take control....but I expect nothing less from you than random bs, because you never seem to post any facts...

 

I hate kurds, they are terrorists, Giving them a country will be like giving a country to al qaida

 

Didn't the US tell them to stand up against saddam in the first gulf war, then bail on them?

Kurds always getting screwed