Trying to increase revenue using Adsense - not going too well...

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by tSRDazz, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. #1
    Hi guys,

    So I run a fair large independent games website called The Spriters Resource, and lately the company who was supplying our ads decided to constantly delay payments. Because of this I've been trying out a few different ad networks, but shock horror, my international rates were... Well, I'll say shocking at best.

    I've been running Lijit ads for a month now, and on average I say that I get $35 a day from 180,000ish ad impressions from the US only.
    eCPM of about $0.25

    A couple days ago I started running adsense on my international audiences, and these are the results:
    Date

    Page views - 243,858
    Clicks - 77
    Page CTR - 0.03%
    CPC - UK£0.14
    Page RPM - UK£0.05
    Estimated earnings - UK£10.99


    Basically I'm wondering what you guys think about these results - I sort of expected a bit more, but as I said, its only international ads.
    Today I'm going to run international and US traffic to try and see how much I can earn with both running at the same time... I suspect it will be less than running Ligit ads.

    Is there any advice you could give me with regards to increasing these values? Because I personally don't think these are really all that great, at all...

    I think my problem is that I run a massive website, but don't know the first thing about running a massive website...
    Here are my analytics stats for August, and they tend to hit about this mark most months;

    614,601 Visits
    249,551 Unique Visitors
    8,263,448 Pageviews
    13.45 Pages/Visit
    00:07:38 Avg. Time on Site
    31.34% Bounce Rate
    33.55% % New Visits

    Any advice you could give? I think I might need to start approaching companies directly regarding advertising...
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2011
    tSRDazz, Nov 29, 2011 IP
  2. lifeplayer

    lifeplayer Notable Member

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    #2
    Your CTR is too low which has a big improvement opportunity as your traffic is targeted enough
    Basically you can improve your CTR by playing around with your ads setting/placement
    Suggest to use at least one "images only ads", try either skycrapper or leaderboard with "images only" ads, it works great on game site
     
    lifeplayer, Nov 29, 2011 IP
  3. achmad ricky

    achmad ricky Peon

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    #3
    how that the standard about the CTR for savety...?
     
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  4. Guisbar

    Guisbar Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Talking about google adsense earning, уou will cоmе tо understand that google adsense earning аrе no longer аs easy аѕ it uѕе tо be bесauѕe it dоеs nоt accept blogsite aѕ a means of making thе google adsense business bеcauѕе оf this, you will take note that formerly, google adsense соmеs thаt easy but nоw the reverse іѕ thе case.
     
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  5. tSRDazz

    tSRDazz Peon

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    I'm afraid the placement isn't really something I can change, but perhaps you're right with changing my skyscraper to being image only. I'll see if that helps.
     
    tSRDazz, Nov 30, 2011 IP
  6. artunio

    artunio Banned

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    .03% CTR too low, use 336x280 ad unit to increase ur CTR
     
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  7. sagar.sutariya

    sagar.sutariya Peon

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    Yeep it seems that your Click Trough Rate is very low which directly affect to you earning . As you want high CTR go through Google Heat map and change advertisement placement according to it. And if you will having high CTR then your earning will automatically goes high.
     
    sagar.sutariya, Nov 30, 2011 IP
  8. tSRDazz

    tSRDazz Peon

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    The issue is that my advertising placements can't be changed due to the nature of the website - the way in which the content is displayed directly effects it.
    http://spriters-resource.com/

    I've put the two ads in that I feel are acceptable and non-intrusive to the content - the most important thing for me is that visitors become repeat visitors. It makes the site active - it is entirely community driven.
     
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  9. sagar.sutariya

    sagar.sutariya Peon

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    It's necessary to change your placement because if you not going to change placement of ads then CTR will be low and your earning will be not gets hike.
     
    sagar.sutariya, Nov 30, 2011 IP
  10. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #10
    Your ads are way too much out of the way, that's not good. You could do another ad placement for much better CTR, even though your site is not ideal for adsense earnings, because the audience is too technical and the content is not text based, so the ad targeting will be poor or moderate at best..
    Still you can have an ad placement which will not be intrusive but still will generate a better CTR than now (that isn't difficult at all)

    Perhaps you could open a new thread in adsense ad placement / review section to ask for specific advise on that, then paste the url of this new thread here and we'll be able to give some advise.
     
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  11. Rupam Das

    Rupam Das Active Member

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    Hey man, Should I tell you something? Dont worry about CTR and all that at this stage. You have a whopping traffic. That traffic will account for any low in CTR. Beside with such a huge site, you need not to depend upon AdSense. With Alexa bellow 80,000 all you need to do is keep a small banner ( horizontal) in the page and wait for a month. To tell you what, my CTR in the first 20 days was .07%. Imagine? So to understand better, divide number of Ads being clicked with Unique visitors. That will give you an understanding of what is conversion rate! You will find that is above 1%.

    For some niche specific blogs it is 1%-3%. Because they use minimum Ad Units and generally bounce rate is high.

    All that should matter to you is whether you are earning more than what you could earn by selling adspace in Buy sell ads. Thats all.
     
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  12. dian_ribut

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    #12
    your CTR is too low, i think if you can improve your CTR with maximize your adsense placement . .you will get more money :)
     
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  13. tSRDazz

    tSRDazz Peon

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    Thanks, this has made me feel a bit better about this.

    I'm now going to independently sell ads - I agree that getting a displayed CTR of 1% would close to impossible, never mind higher.
     
    tSRDazz, Dec 1, 2011 IP