You mean the hatred of republicans, the US, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Christians in general? Pot, or kettle? Hmmm....still going with "pot." Being aware that a religion calls for my destruction isn't hatred. Acknowledging such, isn't hatred. That a religion instructs it's followers to kill non-believers unless they convert...that's the hatred Passing around a Jew to each member of a religion on the last day, so that that those following such religion can kill them and go to paradise...that's hatred. Perhaps you are familiar with the term: cognitive dissonance
GTech, get real, we know that Islam came after the God of Israel of the Bible, OK, get over it, this was a religion founded in 600 AD or when ever! Now you claim it is violent, but the God of the Bible, the God of Israel says that he himself is going to destroy the sin and the sinners from out of the land and that he himself is going to burn up the earth too! Go read it yourself GTech, there is great violence in the Bible and there have been many wars described in the Bible, even Samuel chopped up a man in pieces and King David murdered men and was a man of war! Now grow up and follow what you know is right, that is peace and love man, not the war and hate you promote!
Jesus didn't command his followers to kill non-believers some 600 years earlier. When little old ladies with blue hair start flying planes into buildings while chanting "God is great" in exchange for 72 virgins while holding up a Holy Bible, you can rest assured I'll be right there to call them on it. When young men start renting large vehicles to mow over people at a university in the name of the Holy Bible, I'll be right there to call them on it. When men start driving into Home Depots chanting "God is great" with the flag of Israel and a Holy Bible in the trunk of their car, I'll be right there to call them on it.
Then it is lawlessness you hate GTech, not a people or race, just come out and say it! But have we followed the law of the land or did Bush and Cheney break the constitution in invading Iraq and put the American people in debt all at the same time so Exxon could make Billions Was that lawlessness GTech Why don't you call them on it GTech
Peace my bro dilipsam, First of all, First of all you pointed me to a Sunni website, I am not in any of the sects, and I am not planning to join any of their clubs and for me, Sunni is the most corrupted sects among the rest... " Do not marry unbelieving women until they believe. A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though if she attracts you. And not marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe. A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though if he attracts you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the fire but Allah beckons by His grace to the garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His signs clear to mankind; that they may receive admonitionâ€. (al-Baqarah, 221). " Anyway, the site quoted the verse above, Did it says you can't marry A Christian Nor Jew? Or can you point me any verse saying that Muslim women is not allowed to marry a Christian or a Jew????? My GF is a very nice and lovely person and I am proud of her... Well, You accused him for being a rapist, this and that, and indirectly relate him to ISLAM... What evidence do you have from Quran to say that my bro? Oh, I remember you said you studied Quran, so you should know much about this right, can you please show me a verse where the name Muhammad is mentioned? Please enlighten me with the things you mentioned above, I mean the Cannibalism stuff, or perhaps..You don't know where to find it? Sorry, It was never given to me, Its done by "traditional muslim" who have the same mentality as you, not me...
Being aware that a religion calls for the destruction of non-believers is not hatred. The hatred is the scripture that calls for the destruction.
I can pull stuff out of the Old Testament where God himself Commanded Israel to kill every living thing, take no prisoners, nor the spoils of war, he called for compete and utter destruction upon the enemies of ancient Israel in a lot of wars GTech. So don't take stuff out of context to promote hatred when we need peace to slow down the approach of WWIII. Do you really want it all to end in a Nuclear War GTech Because if you and those you support like John Bolton have their way we will all be dead, so try to change a bit will you!
Time for a refresher course in kitman: Kitman Strategies: 1. Outwitting by 'diversion of the subject and obfuscation aided at times with a mystical reference to God or Allah.' 2. Role playing as victims: claiming to 'the victim of religious discrimination and intolerance during debate or discussion.' 3. Manipulating ambiguity - condemning in ambiguous terms and praising Muslims that engage in suicide and 'martyr' operations. However rarely will condemnation of a specific act occur and direct questions will be skillfully evaded. 4. Diversion - casual irrelevant counter references to how some Muslim group or Islamic principe is being trampled -- example the poor Palestinians are "at the mercy of US foreign policy and the U.S. is to blame for supporting Israel, thus causing terrorism." 5. Demanding 'evidence' - a type of 'cognitive denial' by repetitive and extreme requests for 'evidence' and 'proof'. In cases of national security, such 'evidence' can not be revealed. When revealed, the 'evidence' is deemed bogus or not relevant. 6. Tactical denial - rather than admitting that a proposition concerning a state of affairs can be partly true, a denial will be made in absolute terms. 'It is impossible to be a Muslim and a terrorists,' which is false and 'Islam forbids suicide', which is true, but irrelevant to the discussion as suicide or martyrdom attacks are not forbidden in the Koran. 7. Exploiting cognitive dissonance - attempts to baffle interviewers and the audience as they resort to double talk, 'cliches and platitudes' concerning Islam. A state of cognitive dissonance exists when holding two contradictory beliefs while attempting to resolve them. An example - confusion occurs when attempting to process both the claim that Islam is a 'peaceful religion' and the dissonant facts of the horrific Islamic terrorists acts and operations. 8. The Islamic 'Defense' Script - Muslim spokespersons the world over repeat the same scripted platitudes such as 'Islam is tolerant and peace loving', 'the veil offers Muslim women more freedom than those in the West', precluding further examination of jihad or the real status of women in Islam. 'Islam has been hijacked', a 'small group of fundamentalists have hijacked a great religion,' a 'tiny minority' are engaged in terrorism' are examples of platitudes or misconceptions repeated by the uncritical media and Western politicians.
I am not sure what you mean there is no love message Quran, 009.006 YUSUFALI: If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. PICKTHAL: And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection, then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. SHAKIR: And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know. 009.007 YUSUFALI: How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous. PICKTHAL: How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty. SHAKIR: How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with His Messenger; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sacred Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah loves those who are careful. Can't you see the message of love there? I can show you more such verses..
So can I, but then there isn't much challenge to it. The Old Testament was filled with hard times for mankind. But work with me here...you and every anti-Christian in the world can pull scriptures from the Old Testament all day long. Here's what you can't do: 1) Pull "stuff" out of the New Testament 2) Find cases where Christians are using either Testament's scriptures to kill non-believers in terrorist attacks. Of course, you'd have to want to do that, if you wanted to completely ignore what's going on with islam, right AC? No acknowledgement, just the "but, but, but..." What are you afraid of, your neck?
The Old and New Testaments are one book GTech, the same God of Israel is the subject of both books, so don't start the propaganda man! The savior came to fulfill the law and the prophets spoken of in the Old Testament and you know it!
Like the verses 009.006 above, where you can clearly see the theme of "convert or die." If an infidel, while being attacked by muslims, seeks "asylum" or "protection" or security, give it to him for listening to and accepting the word of allah. How thoughtful
So it's safe to say I was right, you cannot pull from the New Testament. At least you had the courage to admit it. Pat Robertson would be proud
Do you have special kind of Bible that does not include the old testament? What is the name of your religion? The Bible (Hebrew ×ª× ×´×š tanakh, Greek η Βίβλος [hÄ“ biblos] ) (sometimes The Holy Bible, The Book, Good Book, Word of God, The Word Scripture), from Greek (τα) βίβλια, (ta) biblia, "(the) books", is the classical name for the Hebrew Bible of Judaism or the combination of the Old Testament and New Testament of Christianity. Many Christian English speakers refer to the Bible as "the good book" (Gospel means "good news"). Most sects of Christianity and Judaism regard the Bible as the revealed word of God in some sense, or an authoritative record of the relationship between God, the world and mankind, or some combination of the two. Differences about what those terms mean, and even how precisely to express the idea, are some of the most important distinctions among sects. Bible
GTech does not read the book of Revelation where it describes God destroying all the sin and the sinners out of the land, that is the new testament but it is not convenient for his propaganda campaign!
Peace GTech, I think you're talking about those verses below: Quran [5:51] - O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. I made a post regarding this earlier...its not "friends" but "allies"..I think you understand what does it mean by not joining an "allies"... Quran [9:29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued. The answer is here.... hxxp://www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1390&highlight=jizyah Quran [47:4] When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens. hxxp://www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2452&view=next&sid=12842a4a653b7acc654daef15cc4103f The answers already there...Anything else?
One can easily purchase the New Testament only. I'm surprised you were not aware of that. But then the argument has no validity, because there are two separate Testaments, which is why one is called "Old" and the other "New." As it stands, AC cannot pull from the New Testament and I have challenged you to do the same in the past and instead, you went on an anti-Christian tirade quoting the Old Testament. And neither of you can cite modern cases where Christians are using the Bible (Old or New Testaments) to commit suicide bombings, flying planes into buildings, blowing up subways, trains, hotels and anything with a lung.