I don't think anyone is targeting Muslims, I think what we're trying to do is weaken the impact that Islam has ... true Islam.
Well, before we discuss more about this, please define the word "muslim".. Anyway, as I said earlier, majority of the people are blind followers, not only those muslim people (the definition of "muslim" that you/majority of the people understand)..So there is really nothing surprising with that..
In my opinion, too much of religion is not life affirming. Islam is an enemy of life. Their prophet married a teen, married a lady old enough to be aunt. It tells to kill non-believers, especially Jews and Christians and rob them of their property. Even tells them to rape women of other religions and forcibiliy convert them. Even if your muslim friends are good, remember this that somewhere in their lineage a terrorist is about to sprout. If not, they appear normal with submerged homicidal tendencies. It is not their love for God that they kill non-belivers but for the love of LUST: God has promised 70 odd virgins if you die for Islam. God has promised them rivers of alcohol if you abstain from drinking in this life. The "this life" sacrificed for "That after life" for which no proof exists, is lacking. People, look at the life-affirming religions like Judaism (it doesn't stress on after-life) or even Zoroastrianism. However, Islam will remain the one big curse which can not be wiped off the face of the earth. I was almost getting into Islam 10 years ago but I was wise, the HATE messages ticked me off. Why are these idiots making a big fuss about the cartoons? They got the tomb of Joseph from the Israelis (saying it was holy to them) and converted it to a public toilet. Shouldn't we as Jews and Christians protest? No, we shouldn't do that. Instead we shouldn't grant these scumbags visas in Western nations. Dilip
Good to see you back, Anthony. Where's your nemesis, Bob? Hello Moderator please delete this thread started by the terrorist.
Compar and I have turned to peace and loving our brothers! Good to see you too man, work for peace, sorry you feel threatened, I understand!
Do you have any evidence for those things you claimed above? (Please don't show me some "hadith" bullshit please...Hadith is bullshit, majority of the people are so missguided is because of it...You don't need to point me to some articles too, I've read enough of them, instead tell me what you know about the things you claimed above...) I guess you are from the faithfreedom who only listened to what others said without researching it yourself...Or else show me those things you claimed above in Quran...I mean god asked them to murder, god promised them Alcohol etc... For me, its better for you to respect other people religion until you understand what you are talking about..Don't just read some articles and then trying spread bad things about it..I am not defending them..but I can't tolerate with people talking about something they don't understand..
Do you even know what you are talking about? Who has decided that old testament is not part of Bible? Who hates Jews more, Muslims or Christians? How is king Arthur connected to crusades? King Arthur His name is synonymous with wisdom and fairness. The names of his wife, magician and knights are household words. His sword symbolizes righteous power. His capitol city is an icon for earthly perfection, but with all this name recognition, we still aren't sure that he ever actually lived. King Arthur- Britannia History Crusade The Crusades were a series of several military campaigns—usually sanctioned by the Papacy—that took place during the 11th through 13th centuries. Originally, they were Roman Catholic Holy Wars to recapture Jerusalem and the Holy Land from the Muslims, but some were directed against other Europeans, such as the Fourth Crusade against Constantinople, the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars of southern France and the Northern Crusades. Crusade- Wikipedia
LOL...See, what kind of mentality do you have..Anyway, talking about explosives, I do watch SunTv...I guess not only muslim terrorist use a lot of explosives ... How about if I say most of the Tamil's movie that I watched promote violent and stuff..Sorry, I am not trying to be racist, but extremist / blind followers are everywhere...So, there is no point of blaming everyone for that...You can say anything about muslim...coz my understanding of the word "muslim" and "Islam" are different that majority of the people..I don't follow religion and for me, saying muslim as terrorist is like saying everyone who believe in god as terrorist..LOL..Man, if only you understand the meaning of a word ..instead of taking "language" to represent a religion.. Arabic == Islam == Religion <---LOL...this is really funny!
Again u guys now fighting take the name of religions..... I think this is true example how will third war opened....
once again: your understanding. How about other Muslims' understanding ... bringing us right back down to this: What exactly is the Quaran saying about Christians and Jews? Now, you can always tell me that you don't believe in following it as written, but if others do ... and it is indeed written the way that they do ... then that is evidence that there is a problem. That means that Islam is behind the evil. True Islam as written. You didn't write the Quaran, and the terrorists didn't either. Who said something about arabic? No race cards, dude ... play fair!
As I said, I don't follow religion..I just feel funny that people taking everything, I mean "Language", "nationality" etc as part of religion...LOL...Yet, they are attacking blindly without understanding the meaning..
You see..Islam == Ad-deen and the meaning of ad deen is "system of life"..You see...there is only one system in life the world we are living is..Everyone is living in the same world, Having the same gravity... and about Book? Quran, Bible or whatsoever it is..There is no such thing as a holy book..Book is written by human and not by god..it must not to be followed blindly...its just like Einstein's white paper on theory of relativity where you need to verify how true it is... In fact, in Muhammad's time, there is no such thing as "book"!!!! You see, even the "traditional muslim" find it is hard to accept.. hxxp://www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4565
Just making sure...with three blasts in India in last four weeks and two failed blast attempts, I ought to be cautious. Yes terrorists of all faiths use explosives, but the difference comes when terrorism gets approval from large section of society as way of getting things done. I am sorry to say that the double standards of Islamic world sadden me. What Taliban and Saddam were doing in their respective countries ,was known to the whole world , but hardly anyone in the Islamic world protested , but when US took the initative and removed these regimes , it became a Devil. When Taliban destroyed ancient Buddha statues , no one winked an eye in the Islamic world , but when some cartoonist made a cartoon on Mohammed , violence erupted all over. For decades , Islamic countries have sheltered hard liners and allowed fundamentalists to prosper. Pakistan has always justified terrorism in Kashmir. I remember very well - in his first speech Musharaf had called terrorism in Kashmir as a "Legitimate" freedom struggle...yes Legitimate was the exact word that he had used. Today his "legitamacy" has backfired and Pakistan itself faces a serious threat from terrorists. It is the same story in many other Islamic countries . When a person gets sick, the body has an inbuilt mechanism to fight the disease. but when the internal mechanism fails , an external MEDICINE is required. I am not saying only Islam has fundamentalists, but the fact is Muslims have proved meek against the fundamentalists and terrorists and failed miserably in combating terrorism. Its time for an external dose - I hope you get my meaning .
Zach, we all see the amount of violence originated by Muslims. Whatever the Quaran is called. Do you really want to tell me that there is no corrolation between those 2 ... Islam and terror?
Man, read my post...the word "Islam" means a system..system we are living in..In this life, in this world, such as the earth goes around the sun.....It has nothing to do with religion...Saying Islam is evil is like saying the system created by god is evil....Again, It is just an Arabic word dude..that is reffering to a system we are living in..which is this world.... For me the system created by god is perfect! We are the one who is spoiling the system by creating so many systems of our own..as example..religion...
Why not research it yourself? It's not difficult. Don't quote some hadith, yet it is what people are so misguided because of? In other words, you know the evils of the hadiths, but you don't want it referenced. Is that sensible? You don't need the hadith though, unless you want to know that Jews are considered the sons of pigs and apes and that on judgement day, every muslim will be afforded a Jew to kill, so that they can go to paradise. Or that the hadith is where you will find the reference to 72 wives (virgins). Perhaps that's why you didn't want the hadith quoted? You already knew? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="rivers+of+wine"+islam&btnG=Search Sura 47:15 talks of promises of rivers of wine. The rewards of islam's version of heaven are many worldly desires, often prohibited while on earth. Sura 8:12-14, 9:5, 5:51, 9:29, 2:193. I leave the verses open so that those that "truly" want to know, can research them and find out what they say. Knowledge is power, and it suppresses the tired old "that's not a correct translation" excuse that tends to crop up next to the "not all are <insert something bad here>" excuse. There should be no reason to suppress the truth, however ugly it might be. There's nothing to be afraid of, right? Who says he doesn't know what he's talking about? I prefer to know the truth. The "you don't understand" excuse has become cliche. People do understand. It's not hard to understand: Who among us infidels wants to acknowledge islam is the truth, pay an infidel tax (Jizyah) and be forcefully subdued? Doesn't sound very peaceful and tolerant to me. But there are plenty of other verses above to explore. Is being subdued hatred, or having your neck smyted hatred? Or has the times changed so much, that the new political correctness suggests that being aware of such is hatred? If these things are so shameful as to consistently warrant denying their existence, when clearly they do exist, perhaps it's time to re-write the quran to what people "wished" it really was about.