True Muslims???

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True Muslims are peaceful people wishing all the best for this world?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. i don't know

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  1. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #421
    If you're talking whether my place is safe,

    The place I am living in, it is one of the safest place in the world for non-muslim, no terrorism, low crime rates (but not road accidents) and mostly moderate type of muslim...But, if you're a "muslim" and if they caught you talking about the things I just told you in "public" or trying to share it with other "traditional muslim"...You can expect them to come and "fetch" you to their place for spreading "deviant teaching" and make sure you have a good lawyer if they can't convince you to go back to the "traditional belief"..Though it rarely happen, you can expect yourself to be in the news headline if you're caught doing so...But so far, we don't really get into that much of trouble as they will have more problem answering our questions than questioning us.. We made an open challenge years back, challenging anyone who considered themselves sunni,shiite (shiite or others are not allowed here..Muslim here are 98% sunni) etc to have an open debate based on Quran with us..but nobody came, yet they said its dangerous to have a debate with us...

    Overall, you have a lot of freedom here unless you're a muslim...The law doesn't even allowed you to marry a non-muslim..how lame..But, I just don't care..The one I love is non-muslim...I won't force her to convert because of the stupid law...If she does, it will be easier for both of us (Anyway, it is all about what your religion is in your Identity Card)..but if she don't..Who cares about them, they don't allowed us to get married here...We will go somewhere else... :)

    So, you can guess where I Am from...
     
    Saha, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #422
    So... where are you from? :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  3. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #423
    myCountry.Com.My
     
    Saha, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #424
    Hahaha! I'm planning on visiting Kuala Lumpur in a few months.

    dlcmh is from KL also.

    If you're a guy, we can go out for a beer.

    If you're a girl, I don't want to get my head chopped off. :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  5. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #425
    LOL..I am a guy..but I don't drink beer...Its bad for meditation....I am a spritual type of person..LOL...I don't even smoke dude!
     
    Saha, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #426
    Drinking is like meditation for the Irish.

    It's amazing how close you are to God when you're praying for the hangover to go away. :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 19, 2006 IP
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  7. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #427
    LOL...Meditation, listening to a certain type of trance music...it makes your soul gravitate..you should try it man....You feel like reaching the sky...a feeling that you can't tell...
     
    Saha, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #428
    Yeah, just like AC/DC and Queen. :D
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  9. cencurut

    cencurut Peon

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    #429
    Why do you said it a stupid law? Any comment (proof) to support what you said?
     
    cencurut, Mar 21, 2006 IP
  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #430
    A law that makes it illegal to marry a person of another religion is prima facie stupid.
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 21, 2006 IP
  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #431
    A law that makes it illegal to marry a person of another religion is no different than a law that makes it illegal to marry a person of another race. It's wrong.

    What I find ironic is that while it has never been illegal to marry a person of another religion in the US, there was a time when "mixed marriages" as they called them were quite frowned upon. For instance, a Catholic marring a non-Catholic. It was not illegal, but frowned upon, because many believed a marriage by people of different faiths could not work.

    This was the case for my parents. My mom Catholic, and dad Lutheran. Thing is, the Lutheran minister would not marry them, mixed marriage. The Catholic Priest did, under the condition that my dad vowed to raise his children Catholic. Compromise I guess. Anyway, that "mixed marriage" worked, has worked, and is over 37 years now.

    Any country that makes it illegal to marry a person of a different religion is IMO, barbaric and sick. Sometimes it amazes me the things we've accomplished as a people in the US in such a short time, that other nations still have not over 1000's of years. The fact that we are a huge melting pot of every race, religion, creed, and sexual orientation plays into that greatly. It's amazing what freedom can do.
     
    Mia, Mar 21, 2006 IP
  12. latehorn

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    #432
    It's right(according to the koran)
     
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  13. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #433
    what did you mean by "its right according to the koran"...Please explain...
     
    Saha, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #434
    Saha, you know exactly what he meant....
     
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  15. latehorn

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    #435
    Well.. if a moslem should merry a non-moslem then the non-moslem must convert to islam. A moslem on another forum, skyscrapercity, said that.
     
    latehorn, Mar 23, 2006 IP
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    #436
    In other words: anything but their way won't be accepted.
     
    Blogmaster, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  17. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #437
    You are wrong, I think a muslim man can marry a chrisitian or jewish lady without having to chnage the religion but, a muslim women can not marry a non muslim man without converting to Muslim.
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #438
    Thank you for the clarification. That makes even more sense now. ;)
     
    Mia, Mar 23, 2006 IP
  19. Blogmaster

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    #439
    Man, you Muslims got it easy with your women. lol
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

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    #440
    On penalty of death, from the religion of peace. :rolleyes:
     
    Will.Spencer, Mar 23, 2006 IP