True Muslims???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by messenger of peace, Mar 9, 2006.

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True Muslims are peaceful people wishing all the best for this world?

  1. yes

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  2. no

    78 vote(s)
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  3. i don't know

    22 vote(s)
    10.0%
  1. Nerz

    Nerz Well-Known Member

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    #361
    GTech and Mia...were never gonna agree on Israel im afraid..I see it as illegal occupation, you see it as Israeli land...thats never going to change, so we will leave it at that. For the record im not exactly alone on the issue amongst non muslims i might add. Do you bother to read the opinions of those outside your tiny little world?

    And at one point did I actually say resorting to violence will "solve the problem" on either side of the equation..just cause i can bring myself to kinda of seeing why somebody would do something doesnt mean i support it..or think it will make there situation any better. If you read my reaction to some of Blogmasters post, its pretty obvious i think the acts of terrorists are disgusting, and counter productive.

    But no I wont change my mind on Israel occupation. I know too much about history for a change to ever be possible. If I come across as an anti-semite Mia...well believe what you wanna believe...I dont care, lol you say Boo about anything Israel ever does, and even attempt to try and get your point across, your immediately labelled Anti-Semite, its a time honoured tradition amongst Zionists, especially since WW2. More than a few people on this forum come across as one eyed Zionists im afraid..and as such we can never have a balanced debate.

    Thats the end of thread for me...In the end I hope peace will eventually be achieved betweeen Israel and the Palestinians, and I hope islamic terrorists go the way of the dodo..
     
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  2. MELLA

    MELLA Peon

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    #362
    I can't be arsed reading 19 pages of debating, but in answer to the question.. I voted yes. I believe that it IS a religion of peace, just like every religion is intended to be. Some muslims have just totally interpreted it in the wrong way and used it as an excuse for all the bad things they do.
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #363
    You are quite correct; I don't make excuses for or support terrorists and I never will. That you are not alone in your opinion is nothing unique. That you claim to be non-muslim is of no significance either. I've watched people claim NOT to be a muslim in order to attempt to gain an advantage in a debate. A time honored tactic. People have hated God's chosen people long before you or I were born.

    There are dhimmis around the world that support savages and think by going there to hold up signs that they are immune from thier actions. Doesn't always work. Just ask Tom Fox.

    I'm always prepared to debate Israel. But I respect your decision to bow out.
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #364
    So, they have read the Koran and you have not and yet you claim that they have misinterpreted the religion?
     
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  5. MELLA

    MELLA Peon

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    #365
    :p Don't start with me William. I'm not stating it's fact, just my opinion. *Slowly edges out of thread..................*
     
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  6. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #366
    Man, the reason why he is "showing his hatred" on this forum is because he got no gun..If he does, I can assure you he will start shooting those muslim out there...
     
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  7. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #367
    Peace,

    How if I say, I never see anywhere on Koran asking you to "kill" anyone to go heaven? Ohya, I will be labelled as practising "al-taqiyya" because I don't follow the interpretation majority of the "muslim" blindly follow...How smart...I think many people here are more interested in "bashing" instead of discussing and do research on it..Some of you claimed I "studied" Koran, you never study them dude, you're "blindly" following other people "translation/interpretation" and think you understand it..how sad...
     
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  8. Saha

    Saha Peon

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    #368
    Anyway, some of you might ask, so where there is no other Koran "translation" out there? and majority of them out there are about the "same", well simple..not there is no different translation, but most of them were banned because it is "different" from what "those people from those sects" favour...Man, religion is so much influenced by politicians, and people who are "god wannabe"...
     
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  9. latehorn

    latehorn Guest

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    #369
    Well, mayby it was safer to keep your old avatar, now they know how you look. I see that you are listed on Al-qaeda.com's kill-list :p

    /just kidding
     
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  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #370
    I don't think anybody will be interested to kill little willy. What can they possibly gain by killing a scared little boy hiding under his bed? :rolleyes:
     
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  11. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #371
    Are the guy updating the list :eek:. Can you add me to the list :D
     
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  12. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #372
    You're definitely not. Having been to Germany and France, I can tell you that there are many non Muslims who will be against anything that would ever benefit jews. I have never experienced anti Semetism as I have over there, and one line from the movie "Munich" stands out to me the most: "Germans don't like Arabs, but they hate Jews even more, that is why the tolerate Arabs."

    You need to look at who makes what kinds of statements and make up your own mind looking at both sides. Imagine being a young Israeli growing up with horror stories of the camp and having a histroy of BS to look back on. You're happy to live in a Jewish state, yet you won't be left in peace. What got the Jews thru 1,000 years of despair was hope, and in 1948 finally after the ultimate offense from the hands of the Germans, finally they got their land back which was taken from them so long before that. When you're not Jewish, don't listen to the ones who hate Jews. The propaganda from Germans, the French and many other Europeans will always try to make Israelis look like the ugly offenders, when in reality they themselves have the blood of innocent Jews on their hands. All of the lies broadcasted thru the European media are shocking. Be careful who you listen to, otherwise you can get trapped by those who want to use you as an instrument to further broadcast and justify their hatred.
     
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  13. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #373
    A lot of people are brave only behind the keyboard, while others are willing to die (or kill) for their beliefs. Including members here ...

    Added: this post was made in response to Northpointaki's deleted post before this one.
     
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  14. latehorn

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    #374
    Yeah sure :D
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #375
    Hehehehe... if I don't return from my next 60-day trip to the Islamic world, you'll know that everyone reads DP. :D
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #376
    The reason there will be no agreement is because you think Israel is "occupying" someone else's land, when in fact, the occupiers, are the arabs in the region, which includes most of the Middle East. That is just a fact supported by history, not my opinion.
    See...

    If you knew anything about history, you would not be saying that.

    It's the "occupation" references that hint your distaste for Jews.

    IMO the only way that can happen is if Palestine stops blowing people up for fun, stops living like animals, or simply goes away.
     
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  17. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #377
    Mia... is that the end of Q&A :D
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #378
    I hope so, this thread is boring the crap out of me.
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #379
    A fine example of irony with a little projection thrown in for affect! I suppose a more humane method would be to rent a big SUV and run them over at a university?

    We get the message.
     
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  20. Nerz

    Nerz Well-Known Member

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    #380
    Deleted....the post wasnt complete and i dunno how the hell it actually got posted..kinda strange really.
     
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