HAHAHA You are really making me laughing like a mad guy right now, I already said to myself you will come out with a Hadith...HAHAHA..Man, you should understand that I am not a "Traditional Muslim" which mean that I 100% rejected Hadith and since the beginning of my debate..I was only reffering to Quran..Cause I never waste my time with hadith and I don't see there is any reason why you need to.. In case you are still not clear about that, Let me make it clear here...I only accept arguments regarding Quran not hadith..
Peace all, Define a "true Muslim"... Anyway, for me I am a "muslim" coz I believe in god and believe that there is only one god and for me, god has no religion, and god is not human being, and god doesn't need anyone to kill anyone for him and I obey god's command not because I need some 72 virgins to have sex with nor because I can get a river or wine....and for me everyone is Muslim, it doesn't matter whether you're a Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, or whatever the name they give to your religion as long as you believe there is a god and there is only "one god" and not 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 and as long as you do good things..you're a muslim and you're my brother... For me who is going to heaven,who is going to hell, who is the right one, who is the wrong one, who is the "angel" who is the "satan", who is your prophet is not important for me as long as I know I don't do bad things that can do harm to myself and people...whos going to Heaven or hell or who is a sinner or whatever it is..is none of my business...I am no god to judge anyone...I was just instructed to do good things, to follow the commands, to help others and not to harm anyone... As a human being who believe in God, I know I am weak, and god is powerful, I believe I am here in this world to live happily and to see the Greatness of the Almighty..Thats all..I am not here to war or to destroy anyone..God never ask anyone to destroy anyone as god is powerful and doesn't need any help...We are just a weak creature... I am sick of people fighting in the name of god ...I don't understand why are we arguing here because of some over zealots...We are cursing, blaming, swearing at each other because of some people who never go to school or never get a proper education and at the end of the day fighting in the name of god and religion...Why don't instead of arguing and calling people evil, we improve ourselves by trying to understand our own "belief"... I believe everything happens for a reason, and god knows better than me and I don't need to be a "HERO" trying to save the world from terrorism by supporting/committing violence myself... I feel sorry to all of you here and also to myself...this topic is really making our "ego" to control ourselves...We suppose to be united...to help each other..and now again, because of the "religion", we are arguing like an idiot...God we are really no different with those terrorists except we are not holding weapons... Please forgive me if I ever offended anyone.. Peace
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Before we start lynching people (we've already resorted to racial epithets and calls for religious boycotts), I'd recommend to the mods this thread be closed.
Arnie, I feel the low level of discussion - resorting to racial epithets and calling for the boycott of muslim stores and business owners - reminds me too uncomfortably of the leadup to the Holocaust, in Germany, and the incarceration of Japanese-Americans, in my own country. On the basis of this, it would be my recommendation we close this thread.
Where to you see a boycott call? I see only one that has made a personal decision for himself and I wouldn't call this a call to boycott. Remember, some get even a bit too emotional, but that is not a threat as you are reminded too.
I can't be assed to read this whole thread (I don't even like this part of the forum but to each his own) but since its been reported a bunch of times (including through Pm to me), the next racial slur, personal insult, or dumbass comment gets this thread closed. If you want to discuss this type of thing, keep it to the topic and no personal crap. There is very little moderation here but that doesn't mean you can abuse people. Also - A general tip - If you see a specific post that fits the criteria above, PLEASE use the report post (the exclamation mark in a triangle) so the Mods can do something about it. Most of use ignore this section because it doesn't interest us. Cheers
I have to apologise for what I have said but I couldn't help it. The boycott thing was my personal opinion. I never knew that comment was going to be interpreted as racist. Perhaps communal was more appropriate. I had requested the moderator much before to close this thread. In conclusion, I have only wasted my energy and on top of that become a fool myself by arguing with fools. He who fights against monsters should take enough care that he himself doesn't become one in the process. -Nietzsche Regards, Dilip
we really can't say that Muslims are true or not... like other religions it's not perfect... terrorist or suicide bombers are mostly influence and brainwashed by someone who's really good at abusing the weak heart and mind of this people... we really can't judge about this...
I've lived and worked in Muslim countries as a foreigner for over 20 years, an d have seen very low crime rates and always been treated with friendliness and respect. Extremists of any persuasion are by definition anti the status quo. Why judge countries, religions or anything else by the exceptions rather than the rule?
If you're talking about the word "love" there are many in Quran... hxxp://www.submission.org/God/God-love.html and even more if we are talking about the indirect meaning of love...There is even a verse where god showed its love towards Christians and Jews... Anyway, I would like to ask you a question..Do your mom, you wife or anything only love you if they say the word "love"???