Troops Killed 2 families and 3 year old girl today...

But never a bad word for a terrorist. How's your friend, Jose Padilla doing these days?

 

What makes you different than any other terrorist?

You have already admitted that you support the massacre of civilians in order to achieve your political goal which is a terrorism. Do you think we should give you a pass because you think Bush does no wrong?

 

I think everyone accepts it was most likely heat of the moment, and personally Ive never associated my personal dislike for the way this war is heading, with a dislike for the troops doing there job. A lot of troops are trying to do a good job over there.

The fact remains though, they killed a dozen people didnt they? a dozen civilians..thats a war crime and they should be punished to the maximum extent possible. Under our system id be guessing thats life in prison...Not sure what the U.S does with its rotten soldiers.

Stressed or not stressed..you dont kill a dozen innocent people and a 3 year old girl.

 

I did? Could you refresh my memory on that?

While you're at it, perhaps you could explain why you want the US out of Iraq so terrorists can take over?

 

Do you claim that you didn't?

I 'll give you the benefit of a doubt and here is another chance to clarify your position:

Do you support or condemn the massacre of civilians?

What is your answer:

A) I support the massacre of civilians by U.S. army

B) I condemn the massacre of civilians by U.S. army

Just answer A or B

 

I claimed I would gladly answer your question after you explained why you want the US to pull out of Iraq so terrorists can take over.

So up to this point, I've not given a position either way, which in addition to a bandwidth thief, also makes you a liar.

But I'm still willing to work with you, if you are man enough to answer the question. I don't think you are though

 

Gtech;

I think it is obvious for anyone that you can not answer the question because you support the massacre of civilians. The only difference between you and 9/11 hijackers is your ideology. They were Muslim terrorists and you are a right wing terrorist. Terrorist is a terrorist, independent of what they kill for in my opinion.
You can try to hide and attack me as much as you like but I think it is obvious by now for anyone reading this thread with open mind that you are a terrorist.

I condemn all terrorist, independent if they call themselves Gtech or bin Laden.

 

I can answer it fine and have offered so many times, I've lost count! You are just not man enough to accept the condition of my giving you an answer.

Can I help it if you are a coward? I didn't ask you to condemn anything. The question was very simple and you have chosen, once again, to avoid it, as you have many times over the past year. If you are ashamed of supporting terrorists, then don't support them.

If you decide to be a man and answer the question, let me know. I'd love to share my answer with you! The condition is so simple, yet it seems you are unable to grasp it. My guess is, you'll probably wuss out again

 

I think, my position is very clear. I condemn all terrorists who massacre civilians to achieve their goals independent if they are left wing, right wing or Muslim terrorist. It is very clear by now for anyone that you are a right wing terrorist and I will condemn your terrorist ideology as I condemn Ben Laden ideology.

People like you and Bin Laden are both side of the same coin.

 

That wasn't the question. The question was: why do you want the US to pull out of Iraq so terrorists can take over?

You're in control here, gworld, and you don't even realize it! You alone hold the power for me to give you the all elusive answer you want, but you fail to exercise the control you poss. Put your power to use!

 

Gtech

At least with Ben Laden, he is brave enough to admit, what he believes and even die for it but you are not even brave enough to admit, to your terrorist ideology in the safety of your home.

I suppose all those years of giving out pamphlets to kids in high school and convincing them to join and die for their country has made the corporal Gtech a coward.

Is this the reason that you hate Muslim terrorists so much because you know that they are more of man than you are and dare to admit to what they believe in?

I condemn all terrorists independent of if they are left wing, right wing or Muslim terrorists or if their name is Gtech or Bin Laden.

 

You're still in control gworld

I sense you are on the verge of another nervous breakdown hissy fit! It makes three pages of stupidity worth the effort to watch you get angry, especially since you are are in control

I'm sure bin laden appreciates your kind words and admiration for him! Do you think Jose Padilla will be jealous? What other endearing feelings do you hold for terrorists?

 

Gtech

Be a man, admit that you are a terrorist, so you can at least have honesty, as one good character trait.
All terrorists are coward in a way but I have never heard about a terrorist like you who is such coward that even won't admit to his terrorism ideology.

I condemn all terrorists independent of if they are left wing, right wing or Muslim terrorists or if their name is Gtech or Bin Laden.

 

u 2 need to get a room, i can feel the love.

G-Tech i can give you several good reasons to pull out of Iraq.

1) Where attempting to overlay a western democratic ideal in a country whos core belief, Islam, is not in line with a "good portion" of our christian centric democracy. All told..it simply wont work. While I believe the average Iraqi wants freedom in many ways, freedom to move about how they please..freedom to earn a living, freedom to practice their religion, freedom to speak there mind and not get slapped about the head for it etc, there are also some fundamental differances between Islam and Christianity, and how it plays out in the political arena. The differances between how woman are seen under Islam, and how they are seen under christianity is one of those differances, and that isnt going to change because Islam transcends politics.
There are also differances in secular beliefs..the right to even practice another religion is debatable, the divisions between church and state is "suppose" to be a key facet of our system, yet under Islam, religion and the state are 1. Islamic law itself has some fundamental differances with the English Common Law...that the western world is founded upon. We need a third solution that is unique for Iraq..and at the moment I dont think Bush really see's that...he still thinks he can overlay a western democracy on top of an Islamic State.


2) In the meantime while where trying to achieve the impossible, because where too daft to come up with something unique, where not only killing hundreds of terrorists, but where killing hundreds of innocent civilians. On top of that you have civilians who have joined the terrorists to fight what they see as invaders. So these people, who probably dont have the extremist baggage of an islamic terrorist, are fighting alongside them anyway to get us out of there country. In those circumstances...there freedom fighters. Weve overstayed our welcome a longggg time ago.

3) I still dont think the U.S or its allies has a plan to put into action that will work once the fighting ends. Im concerned warlords will strongarm the civilian government and fighting will break out once more.

In general I dont think we fully understand the complexities of whats going on over there, and I dont think where really capable of understanding it either.

Wasnt our aim to get rid of Saddam and his chronies? To return Iraq back to its people?...in a sense we've already done that...we have achieved that aim.

Anywayz thats the argument for withdrawel...I could counter that arguement with one for staying on as well if you like...but I dont think its anywhere near as strong. Time will tell...and anywayz Bush says his staying come hell or high water so its pretty irrelevant.

 

"Arguing politics on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics -- even if you win, you're still retarded."

 

True...especially when I think we could all be doing something more useful.

 

Heh, gworld does this every now and then. Though he didn't quite use so many posts with lots of color, super huge fonts and bold. I'm just stringing him along. I like to taunt him over the question because he always refuses to answer.

Good post Nerz! May well be the best argument I've seen for pulling out yet. I would just add that in addition to the aim of getting saddam out, leaving them there to fight the huge influx of terrorists that have come across the borders would be a travesty. While I share the sentiment about Islam and was disappointed they are adopting it as their law, I still believe most Iraqis are good people, despite Islam. There have been TOO many Iraqi citizens over the past few years doing extraodinary things to help the coalition as well as others.

So what happens if we just pulled out? There's already an example:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/05/AR2005090500313_pf.html

I believe everyone deserves freedom. I don't believe Iraqis should be fed to the wolves because a few deem them unimportant enough to afford freedom. Freedom is seldomly worth fighting for when you already have it.

You make some good points though.

 

I know I've asked this question before, but I never got an answer. What single freedom have you lost as a result of the Patriot Act?

BTW, Canadians are exempt from this question.

 

Thing is, they aren't his rights to begin with. So why he even brings it up, intrigues me to no end.

 

I love it. GWorld posts a picture that has nothing to do with the current thread, goes on a tangent asking a question that has nothing to do with this thread, and when he gets no response to the picture and no answer to his question, in his own mind his off topic post/picture are now supposedly the product of Gtech?

Say what?

Sometimes reading your posts is like taking a bath in beer. Burp!