Transparency of coders and Designers

Discussion in 'Directories' started by The Pheonix, Oct 14, 2007.

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Should Programmers be transparent on thier contact details?

  1. Yes, they should have nothing to hide.

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  2. No, why do they need to give thier details.

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  3. We should just take thier word for it they are who they say they are?

    2 vote(s)
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  1. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #21
    That's not a problem SS, its down to interpretation, I respect your opinion as much as any others. We haven't got to agree all the time, the world would stop spinning if that happened. :eek: We can though agree to disagree without arguing which I pretty much think we both agree on. :)
     
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    jg123 Notable Member

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    #22
    It is a case of 'risk vs. reward', the risk is higher with a solo contractor but you can also save a bundle if you have the time and experstise to manage the project successfully. Personally I have had a lot of success using designers and coders from the forums but I admit there have been some bumps in the road. I usually go with my 'gut' if I feel there may be problems I just don't do business with them. The whole fiasco with Serge was unexpected. I never had any business dealings with him myself because frankly I was not a big fan of his style and I always felt his prices were a tad high. I am guessing something happened in his personal life that caused his business/reputation collapse.
     
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    Turbo-Productions Peon

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    #23
    Being a designer myself, I feel that if you can't stand behind your work, then the client should not be paying for your services. A lot of amateur designers out there. just remember you get what you pay for.
     
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  4. templates

    templates Notable Member

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    #24
    yea,thats what im in the process of doing because of serg ripping me off,but im still out the $250 for a couple of months now and not guranteed to get it back from my CC company..that whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth with dealing with ppl here on the forum
     
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #25
    I primarily love to work with people that I have prior acquintence with. So far I have worked with iGauresh & LeopardArt - who have delivred much more than I wanted:) Besides WatchOut also helps me out from time to time with site management.

    My view is that, even if I know the real address of th person --what do I do if he/she cheats on me for few hundred bucks? Am I going to US and file a lawsuit or to Sweden and ask its police that there is a Cyber criminal I was looking for?

    No way- I won't take the trouble.

    IMHO- it helps nothing. If he/she cheats on me, I can always share it with all of you and other communities that I am involved in.

    WWW too vast a pnomenon- it is a place of opportunity for both honest and dishonest people. All can do their own jobs and fortunately the dishonest people are too out-numbered by honest people.
    So everything cool as per as I am concerned.:cool:
     
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  6. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #26
    I did a few coding jobs for Serg Aspidov in the past and he seemed to be a reasonable payer. Can anyone confirm that he is ok now? He hasn't logged in since Sep 13th 2007...
     
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    werewe12 Well-Known Member

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    #27
    No one has heard from him.
     
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  8. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #28
    I think he must have serious problems. A person doesnt flip like that for no reason.

    I also forgot to mention my dealings with clive he has coded many wordpress and phpLB themes at an excellent standard:)
     
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  9. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #29
    Thanks, Mikey. I do appreciate the kind comments about my work, means a lot to me when customer is happy.
     
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    #30
    do you do phplb and phpld templates?i may need some done..thanks
     
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  11. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #31
    Do a bit of homework, you can deal with anyone you want anywhere on the planet from the comfort of your own home thanks to this thing we call the internet, you know the thing I'm using to talk to you right now. :eek: 99% of Countries have treaties in place where you can take action against a person from another Country even if they are not in the same domicile as you.

    That's why transparancy is important, and my own personal opinion is never deal with anyone who's afraid to give their details as they clearly have something to hide, if not from you from someone or something else.
     
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  12. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #32
    Yes, I do PHPLD coding, too.
     
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    #33
    What struck me about this incident was the fact that everyone appeared to be terrified of calling another member to account. Why?

    Service providers use these forums to market their services and this is where reps should be made and where members should be held to account. Given the nature of our respective businesses I don't think Transparency and Accountability comes easily to us.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #34
    i think people care about their green blobs too much and didnt want to call out a reputed member incase the red devils came chasing....
     
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    #35
    That's where it all goes wrong. There is nothing wrong with making mistakes. We all do it. That's how we learn but the difference between one person and another is how they handle situations.
     
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    #36
    Do not be surprised to find out that some members only play the role of 3rd parties and negotiators while pretending to be coders or designers, and the actual services are provided by others without their knowledge of who the real customer is.

    I found myself in this position (of being mislead) quite a few times on DP. That's why we are facing a potential problem when it comes to transparency and accountability as a result.
     
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    #37
    That's what I was saying and that's the reputation DP has. On the other-hand its open and if you can stomach the trolls you can pretty much say what you like. Could we not keep the open and free and add some value in the way of integrity, transparency and most important of all accountability.
     
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  18. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #38
    I think this is exactly the problem, I hover around the coding forums and freelance sites quite a lot, and know more than I let on about the simularities of posters here and coding requests and cries for help on them, you might just be right but still, even these agents should be accountable don't you think?

    Sorry to hear this Clive, I did notice that some of the transparency of some people here seems to be clouded, glad I'm not freelance.
     
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