Traffic Generation - Let's Share Our "Secrets"

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by cjmo75, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. keystonemedia

    keystonemedia Peon

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    #81
    Actually, no- that post was made with no reference to any individual in the post (did you even mention twitter? :s ), rather a general observation.
     
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  2. JoesMillion

    JoesMillion Peon

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    #82
    I never said that, and I don't need the publicity either.... I already have the traffic and can get more than the original site could ever get. It's the finding buyers I have problems with.

    How is it a dead horse?


     
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    #83
    Just making sure.

    Why should I mention twitter?

     
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    #84
    How can you get more than the original? A site that made 1 million dollars- has yours made anything close to that yet?
    And you may have 'traffic', but I doubt its anywhere near the same amount as TMDHP. I'm not attacking you, just think of it logically- the million dollar homepage was featured in literally hundreds if not thousands of different news reports world wide, and Mr Tew was able to cash in because of this massive surge of publicity- people wanted to be advertised on the page when curious folks went to check it out.
    The fact that you're struggling to sell advertising says it all- if there was any interest in the site, people would be chomping at the bit. As it stand, they're just worthless pixels on a worthless page. Now, if you did something newsworthy and got the site mentioned (stick a huge poster for joesmillions or something near a public place), you might see a bit more advertising interest.
    Traffic alone will not help here, though.
     
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  5. keystonemedia

    keystonemedia Peon

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    #85
    Because my post was about twitter ignorance and you seemed to think I was talking about you- if you hadn't talked about twitter then I couldn't be talking about you :)
     
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    #86
    You're putting words in my mouth. I have TRAFFIC, and I can do a lot better with TRAFFIC than Alex did or could do. I have no idea how you think I think I've made anything with the site yet except $300 from the ads I've sold.

    I think you're missing my point and talking about things I've already considered. The site isn't worthless, it gets traffic and the two advertisers are getting results, good results (a lot more than I expected). I haven't gone to the press yet, was looking to see what I could do on my own FIRST. It's not that there is no interest in the site, there aren't many who know about it, hardly anyone at all. Technically, y'all here at DP are the only webmasters who know about it.

    IMO, most are first to conclude that it can't be done... again. But it again, and with ease. Selling ad space isn't new, nor is marketing.





     
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  7. keystonemedia

    keystonemedia Peon

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    #87
    And I'll say again- how can you think you'll do better?

    The vast majority of your backlinks come from DP, 'pornless' or your own 'uglysob' site.
     
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    #88
    I didn't think you were talking about me, yet.


     
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    #89
    I'll answer it again... I have traffic and can get a lot more.


     
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    #90
    So, you have traffic. I get that. But if you have so much, why is no one buying your advertising?
    In the time its taken you to get 3 ads (one of which is yours), my network of adsense sites alone has generated a hell of a lot more revenue. They took me almost no time to set up, I didn't have to pimp them on forums, and they get traffic. Why do they make money? They actually provide something that the user is looking for. Therefore, advertisers can make money from people looking for products in the niches of my websites.
    Your site, on the other hand, offers nothing to users. It only serves to crib advertising revenue.
     
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    #91
    I may have gotten 50 visits from DP so far, probably from all the sig spots, which is only a fraction of what the site gets. Nothing to write home about. As for the others, I don't use them much at all, and I've definitely never used uglysob.com to promote it.


     
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    #92
    I've answered that question too. Answer... I've yet to contact anyone to buy advertising. Y'all here are the only webmasters who know about it, and I can definitely tell this forum is for more small-small buyers.

    If it serves nothing, then why do people go to the site and click? My first buyer decided to get another cube cause the first he got was doing so well.




     
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    #93
    I'm not going to argue with you, that's not why I'm here and you could be right.
    I'd suggest offering a trial function though. Give webmasters a day for free to see whether or not its worth their investment, and you might see more advertisers :)
     
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    #94

    People go on the internet to have something to look at, they don't need any other reason (example: reddit, facebook, digg, etc). Advertisers make money from my site because not everything can be "niched" perfectly on the web. Those that do find good sources of traffic always want more, and that's where I come in. I give advertisers their need for more and can fill it very well.
     
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    #95
    I actually like to argue, and you bring up valid points that I need to understand. Arguing causes me to prepare for the next person and helps me to solidify my answers.

    I'm thinking I may use the traffic myself, find a few affiliate programs to market, even though I've always hated them.

    I did put on the site that I'll buy ads back, but a one day trial wouldn't hurt. Would just need to automate it.


     
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    #96
    The bit in bold would be a great idea. If you can prove that traffic from the site converts and makes money, it might be something more of an attraction. Yeah, a trial would be a good idea, as it would let the sceptics see whether or not it is worth their $100.

    I take exception to this part, though:
    Facebook is certainly more than 'something to look at', the whole purpose is to provide social interactivity. Digg & reddit share stories and pages of interest on the internet. I can't see many people who would be too content just to look at a page of adverts.
     
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    #97
    Affiliate stuff I would consider myself a novice. Over 10 years ago I decided to not use them, so it will take some re-learning. Question: are there any programs that I can just link to and create my own ad?


    The only way you can get social on the Internet is to have something to look at; posts, photos, comments, etc. Don't just limit yourself to a page of ads ;-). Sharing is the same thing... give people something to look at, like reading.

     
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    #98
    Wow I Love it when things get nasty.... I will grab the popcorn...
     
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    #99
    That's pretty much what I said- joesmillion.com doesn't really offer anything apart from a block of ads.
     
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    #100
    Why don't you post something useful instead of puffing your chest out?
     
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