You probably know that about a fifth of the world's population is Chinese and that Baidu is more popular than Google in China according to this thread. Given these facts, is it really worth to submit a URL to Baidu as this thread recommends? Does anyone of you get a decent amount of useful traffic from Baidu?
Not toos ure, been trying to submit to them but I don't seem to get my sites listed let alone get traffic with them
I found the thread where everybody was tripping over themselves to get on baidu extremely puzzling. How much interest do these sites expect, or even want, from China? Lots of people in China, oh yes, but how many of them are interested in non-chinese sites, and/or have disposable income in a currency that's useful? or do people really think that they're going to fascinated by their adsense ads?
If your site is catering to the Chinese, or is written in Chinese, submit your site to Baidu, it can bring lots of traffic. If not, don't bother though. Also the Baidu bot can drain your bandwidth and does not care much for robots.txt
Yes,Most of chinese use baidu to search ,are not google. Because most of people don't know google engine. some one use google because they are webmaster or computer worker. another,As a site for company,baidu crawl pages are more and more than google's.
If you think you will benefit from chinese traffic, submit and put some chinese words in your websites. Plenty of translation softwares can help in puting some correct keywords. I found submitting to chinese business directory make sure you get site visible in baidu. http://www.baidu.com/s?ct=0&ie=gb2312&bs=seagency.net&sr=&z=&cl=3&f=8&wd=seagency
Baidu will send you traffic...if your site has content Chinese people want to read or a product they want to buy. BUT...most users of Baidu ignore search results in English. They go straight to the sites listed written in Simplified Chinese. They also tend to ignore search results and sites that use bad machine translations from English to Chinese. Someone suggested using "Translation Softwares". Nobody likes poor translations in any language. Guess what? Chinese people don't want to read crappy translations with grammar errors and wrong word choices. If they see them in a search result on Baidu, they usually ignore them. Because, "Translation Softwares" often make some horrible errors that a human won't...like sometime using totally inappropriate and offensive words. If you are going to try to catch some of those Chinese Surfers, get yourself a real live Translator, not some "Translation Softwares". Magda wrote: "I found the thread where everybody was tripping over themselves to get on baidu extremely puzzling. How much interest do these sites expect, or even want, from China? Lots of people in China, oh yes, but how many of them are interested in non-chinese sites, and/or have disposable income in a currency that's useful? or do people really think that they're going to fascinated by their adsense ads?" These attitudes show a complete ignorance of the current situation in the People's Republic of China and Web trends and use. There is an Internet boom in China at the moment, just like everything else here. There are many websites popping up to take away business from existing English sites. Do you want to miss out and have your niche ignored because of outdated ideas? To get a glimpse of what is rally happening in China these days, y'all should visit my site The China Tattler www.chinatattler.com A lot of Chinese people are interested in non-chinese sites for things like NBA basketball, online role playing games, celebrity news, instant messaging, videos, mp3 downloads, and yes even purchasing the same goods and services online that Laowai do in their own countries. The people who are net-savvy in China, are usually richer than average with disposable incomes to burn and Credit Cards and paypal accounts to boot. Submit to Baidu...but do it right...make sure you do it using a good Simplified Chinese description of your site. Make sure your landing pages and homepage has Babelfish or some online translation link. And don't underestimate the value of a Chinese visitor to your website...think viral.
ChinaTattler is right about the free translation services. I was using one of those sites to translate a Japanese site into English. It was so bad that "pizza" in Japanese was translated as "umbrella" lol. You're not going to get traffic if you have bad translation that no one can understand
Cheers, ChinaTattler! Your explanation certainly clears things up: proper Chinese is essential. About the other posts on Baidu; most of the posters aren't from China, so that explains their lack of understanding of the current situation of the internet usage and savviness of the Chinese. I find your recommendation to put a link to Babelfish confusing. You said yourself that machine translations are rubbish, so what's the point then of putting a link to an online translator? Or should it be used as a backup for poor human translations into Chinese? Or do Chinese people use the online translator to look up the meaning of certain characters that they do not understand?
so is there any way or anyone can give suggestions for optimization to get traffic from baidu.com ???
I haven't thought of the idea of translating whole websites or a whole article. Just feel if you can at least translate keyword and description... juz my 1 cent. Only to be found and and stand out in baidu instead of literaly make them chinese friendly Installing a Babelfish is for your viewer to read instead of translating your site for Baidu's robot for indexing, it makes very different
Do the same thing as with any search engine optimization...but do it in Chinese. Notice the xml:lang=zh-CN...that is really necessary to be included by some Chinese Search Engines. Put the Meta tags, title, keywords, Content description, in your code written in Hanzi. Here is an example of how 163.com a chinese site does it for the home page: Of course, to do this right, you need some knowledge of Chinese characters...or a poor Chinese student who will do it for you for a few bucks.
If your site is English, the Babelfish translation will translate the page into Chinese for those visitors who need more help than others. It may mean someone stays on your site, instead of just surfing away. Most people here use some kind of translation software for only a few words at a time. The idea is to make your site accessible to those whose English may need a little help or a lot of help. Machine translations from Chinese into English are uniformly horrible...and from English into Chinese just as horrible for documents longer than three or four sentences...but if all you are really looking for is translation for just a word or two they are okay...if they accurately translate the idea clearly and not just the word.
I'm not sure if anybody said this but I saw in one thread that Google is banned in China and whoever types in Google.com gets redirected to Baidu So, Baidu isn't that popular ... It's actually Chinese monopoly
I think you can do is use Global Translator on ur site so that ur site gets indexed in all languages and so that Baidu SE can index ur site in Chinese btw I got my first Visitor from Baidu SE today
were in the process of putting up this web site and i was wondering what i can do to make it whare u can view the sites text in what ever language you choose imma go chech that global translator anybody else have any good soft ware for my site
I went through the messages posted in this thread and they confirm what ChinaTattler mentioned: you're website will not receive any useful traffic unless it is available in proper Chinese.
if u have a global translater thos it show up over there in chineese and does it count on thier baudu
so what would the best way is to just do heading and key words in proper chineese what im doin it for is a hip hop music comedy site with alot of videos and interactive article as well as the bands music so i just want people in china know who they are when they punvh up hip hop music and things related to our site