Traffic Depending On Position

Discussion in 'Google' started by Clientchuk, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. #1
    People, say please what position do you have in Google, how much searches per month or day has your keyword and how much traffic you get from Google. I'm curious because I myself was on the 5th position with a keyword that has about 200 searches a day. Well, there is a big list of paid ads in the right and 3 paid ads above the organic search results, so I was the 8th actually. And I didn't have any traffic from Google at all except 5 visits within 2 months. Is it normal?
     
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  2. PhilipSEO

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    I think the most likely reason is that this search volume is bull -- how did you come up with it?
     
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    niceeee i didn knew that :)
     
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    The first two spots take 40% of the traffic for any keyword - if there are no ads above them.
    The traffic for the other spots goes down proportionately - someone will pop up with the standard % averages, but it's something like 5% for position 6. So for position 8 - maybe 3 a day would be a good average for that keyword...
     
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    No it is not at all. This is not because the PPC ads above your organic results too. I have done personal observation with 20 peoples, all of them are my friend. I did ask them if they do notice about the different between "PPC Ads" at above and the right side / "Organic Results". Half of them noticed about the different in "backgroud color" but do not know how different exactly. They do think all of those results are advertising, even organic results LOL. The rest half never noticed anything and just click around until they found things they wanted.

    This may because your keyword may not has 200 daily search. Which type of match did you use? Exact / Broad / Phrase
     
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    Most of the traffic tools are not accurate... plus #5 gets a lot less clicks than 1-4.
     
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    There are 200 exact searches. At least Google tool tells me that.
     
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    According to some study, the stats are like this:

    First Page: 70% - 95% CTR

    • First Result 40% - 70% CTR
    • Second Result 10% - 40% CTR
    • Third Result 5% - 20% CTR
    • Fourth Result 2% - 10% CTR
    • Fifth Resut 1% - 5% CTR
    One more specific study for a specific keyword has given breakdown of CTR

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    And one more of them reveals this
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    It does not give you daily search volumes. Did you divide the search volume you got by 30?

    The most common mistake when using the Google Keyword Tool is leave the default "broad match" setting. Did you change the setting to "exact match"?
     
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    Yes, I divided the number by 30. I explored my keyword many times and experimented with broad/exact. 200 is exact.
     
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    By the way, I have just checked Yahoo and came to know that I am â„– 1 there )) Though no traffic from the main keyword... Very strange...
     
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    I see, thanks. A few more things to consider:
    1. Are you looking at global search volume or for your country only? Chances are you don't rank equally in all the regional Googles.
    2. In Webmaster Tools, you should be able to see what % of clicks you get against the total number of impressions.
    3. Perhaps most importantly, make sure you have a very attractive title and meta description to maximize click-through.
    4. For many keywords, most of the search volume is made up of searches carried out by SEOs and site owners checking their rankings, so they are essentially bogus searches.
     
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    I looked in several Googles. I aim at United Kingdom so google.co.uk gave me the 5th position. I am from Ukraine by myself but my friend there told me this stats (he has a UK ip address which is essential as well). For example, google.com gave me the 9-10th positions.
    Search frequency of my keyword in Britain - about 145 searches a day. 200 is world wide.

    This is interesting. Could you point me to that feature, I can't find it there.

    Been there, done that.

    Yeah but I think 200 a day is a big number anyway.
     
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    By standard Google spits out keyword search volume for whenever that keyword phrase is used no matter what.

    So lets say Green Bird has 200 searches a month, that includes searches for:
    - Fat green Bird
    - Ugly Green Bird
    - Eat Green Bird
    - Green Giant Bird
    - Bird with Green Feathers
    etc. etc. to infinity

    So when you spread that 200 between all the combinations of searches it could be included in, you can expect that the search for that specific word be a lot lot lower. If you got 2 searches a month from the #5 position that's pretty good!

    To see the real figure change the search tool from broad match to exact match.

    IM Gurus always quote the broad search for what the rank for to insinuate they gets loads more visitors than they actually do.
     
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    Please read the whole thread you you are posting in and not just th first poast, otherwise you drag the subscribers back here for no reason.
     
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