Traffic a part of PR algo?

Discussion in 'Google' started by Basoone, Feb 23, 2006.

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    Does traffic somehow affects PR rating? One of my post on craigslist(of course it has no backlinks on it) has a PR5.. What do you guys think?
     
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  2. hooperman

    hooperman Well-Known Member

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    PR is a function of backlinks only.
     
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    I don't think so. Google doesn't have any technology to measure traffic yet and they are definitely not using alexa ;)
     
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  5. NetMidWest

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    :confused: I see the wink... can you find me proof?
     
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  6. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Read the old pagerank paper done by the Google founders.

    Shannon
     
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  7. Basoone

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    Hmm I dont know but its showing pr5 on 4 datacenters! Is it possible that they also included traffic as part of their PR algo?

    Tnx for the response :)
     
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  8. soul-healer

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    No Google Doesnot Rank Site PR based on Traffic as one of site with most traffic stays same while low traffice gain PR.

    Google did change some algo regarding PR Update this time. this is my opinion let experts discuss better.
     
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    Counting genuine traffic to a web page as a measure of 'importance' might not be a bad idea, but watch what the evil webmasters do with that idea!
     
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    yeah, i dont see how it is related. good traffic websites might be promoted in alexa website and that provides a link back to your site...perhaps that makes a difference?
     
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  11. Basoone

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    I found another post, this time its PR3 with no links pointing to the post. How did that happen?

    Weird! :mad:
     
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  12. soul-healer

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    Some of my sites inner pages dont have a single backlink in Google and they rank PR4 the reason the main site is passing PR to inner pages.

    In the above example you are talking the site have 3530 backlinks in Google and a PR7 thats why the site passes PR3 of its inner page you are talking about
     
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  13. Basoone

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    ahh tnx for the info
     
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  14. zoom

    zoom Peon

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    On one of my website my internal pages were PR4 before the update. After the update the pages with high traffic are PR4, pages with low traffic are PR2 and all other are PR3. All the pages are the same age. I actually think that traffic somehow affects their PR.
     
    zoom, Feb 24, 2006 IP
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    hi basoone! guys, i want to ask what does datacenter mean or do? how does it relates with PR, traffic and algorithms? thankies! :)
     
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  16. soul-healer

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    Datacenter : By word means a common place to store record.
    Google have many datacenters to store information about websites and many other things these datacenter brings us back our queries results the request send my users routed to nearest available datacenter to ensure fast and quick responce.

    Different Datacenter might vary in results as depends on Synchronization. Thats why different datacenter showing different PRs wait untill Google Synchronize the data on all the Datacenters.

    Traffic has nothing to do with any datacenter. Datacenter keeps record.

    As as algorithm is concered so no one knows what is going at the backend. we only know some factors based on these factors results are calculated.

    Regards.

    PS: The above statments are my opinion if any correction need to be done please go ahead and do it.
     
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  17. ambergambler

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    I wonder. Why are Google tracking the hits a site has received for specific search terms (I recently noticed that in Google Sitemaps)? It's entirely possible that it's part of the algo.
     
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  18. rehash

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    I dont think it has anything to do with traffic, however some things changed, I think google counts now only long time stable backlinks and not the recent ones, probably to counter link buying.
     
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    I agree with rehash
     
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  20. FujitsuBoy

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    Although I can't remember the source, I remember Google claimed to use thousands of different metrics when calculating PR for a document. Citations (back links) are an important factor in that, and as Smyrl said there are many factors described in "The Pagerank Citation Ranking: Bringing Order To The Web" (1998). No doubt the list of metrics is growing every day, especially with the new GoogleBot.

    Google actually have several ways of discovering the traffic distribution across sites/documents, and I strongly believe that this is either a metric currently used, or a metric soon to be introduced.
     
    FujitsuBoy, Mar 1, 2006 IP