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Tradebit.com scammers be warned! They cancel accounts when they owe money! SCAM!

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by canaryspace, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. #1
    I have been a member of Tradebit for many years but recently had a problem with my email, I let the domain name slip and it was the email linked to Tradebit. I couldn´t login and tried on several occasions to contact them but nothing. Eventually I managed to get the email back and reset my password. Checking my account, I am owed around $200, so I kindly asked if they would pay me due to the fact that I had made a mistake with the email and it is now corrected. In the time I couldn´t login, I had still been advertising their products and earning commission. I asked if they could pay me what they owe me from the previous month, their reply..

    "Thank you for your request.

    I fully understand your problem and we are very sorry for that. But please
    understand our problem, too:

    You know how slow Paypal is. If someone asks us to check on revenue that is
    more than 1 week back, we have to invest HOURS to dig up all details for
    10 or more payments. These hours have to be paid and it can not be that
    we are responsible for your email address. We can check back only the last payout and do that out of service. But longer?
    You have to admit, that you would notdo it in our shoes, right?

    --

    Sascha Grimm
    Tradebit Support Team"



    I mean WTF! Their excuse is that Paypal are slow and they have to pay someone to look back for revenue, it is not automatically in their system?
    What they really mean is they thought my account was dead, I was still earning them money and they spent it!

    I made a reply, telling them if they do not pay me what they owe me, I will make posts in webmaster forums, which is about right I think!

    Their reply..

    "i have very detailed explained why we cant recover your old payouts.
    We have canceled your membership on Tradebit, cause we will NOT deal with people who threaten us.

    regards

    --

    Sascha Grimm
    Tradebit Support Team"



    THEY DELETED MY ACCOUNT! All my files everything, my earnings, all gone! My reply to them wasn´t even a threat, it was "Please pay me what you owe me and we will call it a day".

    I am now on a mission to bring Tradebit.com down, never in my life have I dealt with such scammers.

    Be warned, Tradebit will cancel your account at anytime, illegally and without reason.

    TRADEBIT.COM = SCAM!
     
    canaryspace, Jul 17, 2012 IP
  2. canaryspace

    canaryspace Well-Known Member

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    WOW! I found this http://tradebitscam.blogspot.com.es/

    So they are also stealing money from sellers by claiming that it was a Paypal refund, when we all know, Paypal do not refund none tangible items!

    I hope Paypal get the gist of this and ban them from using their payment gateway!

    Sorry not bumping the thread, just adding some info I found.
     
    canaryspace, Jul 17, 2012 IP
  3. steve_tradebit

    steve_tradebit Peon Affiliate Manager

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    Hi canaryspace

    This is just a holding message to let you know I am investigating this individual incident and will post an update once I know the details of your particular case. We take complaints such as yours very seriously indeed. We are a legitimate business that was formed back in 2006 - if we were a scam outfit, we would almost certainly not still be operating today.

    The blog link you posted is over 3 years old and it was created by a seller with a grudge against Tradebit, who sought to tarnish our brand. It contains a great deal of libellous disinformation, which the author is not able to back up, and is an isolated case. Note that there are very few blogs like this one denouncing Tradebit - if we were "scammers", then the internet would be rife with blogs/postings of this kind. It isn't, because we do our best to resolve each and every complaint to everyone's satisfaction so that it does not escalate to this point.

    We take great pride in doing our best to provide a fair and reliable service to both our sellers and buyers. I ask that you grant me 24 hours to investigate your particular complaint and contact you directly, before contining along the same path as our caps lock loving blogger, in an attempt to "bring us down", as you put it.

    Once the complaint is resolved, I ask only that you update this post so that others can see that we do indeed take such matters seriously.

    Regards
    Steve

    Tradebit.com
     
    steve_tradebit, Jul 17, 2012 IP
  4. canaryspace

    canaryspace Well-Known Member

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    Still waiting, 6 hours to go if my timing is correct. All I want is what I am owed and my files, not much to ask for is it?
     
    canaryspace, Jul 18, 2012 IP
  5. Jonchun

    Jonchun Greenhorn Affiliate Manager

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    Shows what kind of business they're running if it takes a public post like this to get a refund from them...
     
    Jonchun, Jul 18, 2012 IP
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    steve_tradebit Peon Affiliate Manager

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    I have sent you a private message, canaryspace.

    Jonchun: a simple email is all that is required to get our support team to investigate a complaint. In this case, canaryspace used that simple email to threaten, and then try and extort, our support staff. Which is why they are (understandably) refusing to deal with him, and he is venting on this forum.
     
    steve_tradebit, Jul 18, 2012 IP
  7. Jonchun

    Jonchun Greenhorn Affiliate Manager

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    First of all, I would be mad just like the user of your service if tradebit claimed they couldn't pay out because "Paypal was slow". What kind of excuse is that? All they had to do was ask for a transaction ID, Email address, First Name, Last name, any information like that, and they can easily find the transaction with the "Find a transaction" feature on Paypal's website. Secondly, even if he was rude, that's no reason to completely delete an affiliate's account. In fact, I don't see anything in the ToS that prohibits threatening tradebit at all. Did your support team member break the site's ToS by cancelling the account?
     
    Jonchun, Jul 18, 2012 IP
  8. canaryspace

    canaryspace Well-Known Member

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    I was very rude and threatening, AFTER they had deleted my account, all earnings and all my files and I was in my rights to be rude and threatening. I called them n**i c**ts and told them that I hope they all die! Ok, a bit over the top, but they deleted me when I simply asked "Please pay me what you owe me and we will call it a day", this is all I asked! They started the rudeness and deleted my account, so really they are n**i c**ts!

    Anyway, I have had nothing back from them and they now refuse to pay me because I was rude! Tradebit will look at any possible way to not pay you, I havent finished with them and will not take their threats that they could now take legal action ON ME, for being rude! Just what kind of a fking circus do they think they are running? IDIOTS!!!
     
    canaryspace, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  9. annoyedCEO

    annoyedCEO Peon

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    i ordered my complete staff not to invest any further time into anonymous false postings.
    i am the owner of the company, direct your (senseless) anger to me and not to underpaid employees who work their ass off to pay for their kids or family.
    also: leaving out facts about the whole process to make us look bad? insulting harmless employees of a company with very very bad words?

    bad style, canaryspace, very bad style...

    now start your shitstorm, i have other things to do...

    cheers,
    ralf
     
    annoyedCEO, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  10. canaryspace

    canaryspace Well-Known Member

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    There you go! That is the attitude of Tradebit.com Under paying his employees, trying to scam as many people as possible to get himself rich fast. Well Ralf, you messed around with the wrong person here. You owe me and you WILL pay me, if not, I will bring you down. Your attitude in this forum is disgusting and I am so happy you wrote that here, just proves what kind of business you are trying to run and I hope thousands of DP members see what you have written and spread the word...

    TRADEBIT.COM IS A SCAM RAN BY ONE OF THE BIGGEST SCAMMERS ON THE NET!

    You deleted my account when I asked you to pay me what you owed me, no threat there, you got threatened by me AFTER you deleted my account.

    I will totally bring you down.

    Any DP members want to help me bring this piece of crap down? I need articles for a link wheel ;) Social bookmarking this thread etc.

    People like this "annoyedCEO" should not be allowed to operate a business. I am just happy his user name is annoyedCEO, at least I can take some credit of making him annoyed, maybe I can annoy him enough to give him a fking heart attack! Ooops, sorry did I say I wanted you dead again, I meant it the first time in my email! Just pay me what you owe me and then die lol
     
    canaryspace, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  11. annoyedCEO

    annoyedCEO Peon

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    well, liveonlinechat.net - i looked into your account and we sent you in average a few dollars per week. if you like, i can publish the complete list here. then YOU forget to change your paypal payout email. we sent a few dollars (and is seriously less than $50 all together) every week as always.

    then you realize that you missed ... (how many? 4?) payments to your paypal email, which OBVIOUSLY was blocked, because you do everything right. Then you ask for 500$, then $600 (the owed amount would be well under 50) and ask us to go back weeks of payments to control, which costs us around 30$ per hour to do and will for sure take around 1...

    Anyhow. The moment you started to blackmail us, at that moment your account was cancelled....

    In good faith I will send some traffic to your site liveonlinechat.net now, so you get your $20 in advertising back and calm down yourself.

    This is my last response to this.
     
    annoyedCEO, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  12. Jonchun

    Jonchun Greenhorn Affiliate Manager

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    Hey not to be rude or anything, but I'm starting to think that "annoyedCEO" and the other "tradebit staff" are not really part of TradeBit at all... they're all freshly made accounts, and we've had no proof of their affiliation to TradeBit... Perhaps it's just some kid trying to troll you?
     
    Jonchun, Jul 19, 2012 IP
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    canaryspace Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea but have received some private messages from the "annoyedCEO" telling me that I have cost him $5000 in damages for my angry emails and I will never get a cent off them for being rude! Rude is when you delete someones account for asking to be paid what they owe you, this is not just rude, it is illegal, if their company is legit, which I am beginning to think that it is not a legit company at all! When you read up about all of the people who they have scammed and his private message to me reads about at least 10 people have been scammed by Tradebit.

    annoyedCEO - "So, start your shitstorm, we just hand it to the lawyers. Maybe they find you by the IPs, maybe not... As you can see on the web, you are probably the 10th person who tries to do that with youtube videos and linkwheels!"

    Seriously? You pissed of 10 other people that want to bring you down using SEO techniques? How about all the others who just thought, ok, I can´t do anything about it so they just leave it!

    TradeBit.com you are a horrible, nasty, scamming company that will bleed the money out of people illegally and you have been getting away with it for far too long.

    I have decided to let them keep my money, fk it, I wouldnt want that money from them, I would sooner see them go broke and I am a big believer in what comes around goes around, Tradebit, Ralf, whatever you are, you have already started your own demise, it is already plain to see. I hope people read this and have a good long think before using your valued ad space to promote Tradebit sales, if you do use Tradebit, you are just giving your ad space to Ralf and the others to milk all they can from you.

    Fk it, they wont pay me, they have threatened me with lawyers because I was rude to them! Ralf, I mean this when I say it, you are a n**i c**t and I hope everything around you falls to pieces, you deserve to rot in hell.
     
    canaryspace, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  14. Jonchun

    Jonchun Greenhorn Affiliate Manager

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    Hopefully more people don't fall for this scam in the future :/

    I don't know exactly how tradebit worked, but ChuneX is offering web hosting affiliate programs with good payouts. You might want to check us out as well.
     
    Jonchun, Jul 19, 2012 IP
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    annoyedCEO Peon

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    If we continue this I am afraid you get a heart attack. I mailed you details about the payments that you CLAIM you did not get. That sums up to around $40 for the whole year - only you forgot to change your paypal email when you got banned from them (wonder why)... We will not click through paypal for over 1 hour to control the status of 24 payments you CLAIM you did not get, because YOU forgot to change your payout email. We do that for a few weeks back, but not for a whole year - which by the way means: 3 minutes per check, 16 "claimed" missing payments = 48 minutes alone to check for your 1 cent open payment.

    We told you that THEN you insulted my team THEN we deleted you. Simple story, IMHO...
     
    annoyedCEO, Jul 19, 2012 IP
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    canaryspace Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, I will check it out and thank you for posting in this thread, always a pleasure to do battle with a bit of backup!

    Ralfs offer of traffic was from this link http://hit.trafficholder.com he sent me over 15,000 hits from porn sites, not very nice really is it!
     
    canaryspace, Jul 19, 2012 IP
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    annoyedCEO Peon

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    I did not send you any traffic from porn sites?
     
    annoyedCEO, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  18. Jonchun

    Jonchun Greenhorn Affiliate Manager

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    Ouch. I've recently had a bad experience with terrible management as well (They owe me $79) and although it's not that much money, it's the concept behind it that's really annoying me. Company's name is HoneLive in case you ever deal with them. Stay clear away. Anyways, TradeBit, your business ethics are scandalous and disgusting. It doesn't matter whether your customer insulted you first, or whether it was his fault for not changing his payout address. TradeBit is simply trying to save face by blaming it on the customer. No, it wasn't the customers fault. Your terrible business practices, and your tremendous laziness in simply looking up all payments (failed) to the old email address is really disgusting. I can't believe that they would do such a thing.
     
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    annoyedCEO Peon

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    Jonchun, you do not have all facts and you are probably just a second account of the gangster who started this threat... if you comply with blackmailing: either way... ignore list...
     
    annoyedCEO, Jul 19, 2012 IP
  20. Jonchun

    Jonchun Greenhorn Affiliate Manager

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    So you're telling me I don't have all the facts, and then you tell me that I'm a second account of the "gangster" that started this... Although BOTH are incorrect, even if one were to be true, the other couldn't possibly be true. On the other hand, what does blackmailing have to do with this? A customer of TradeBit didn't receive is dues, and asked for them. TradeBit flatly refused him, so there's only one recourse left which is to publicly post his experiences. There was no "threat" involved. The only "threat" I see is the "threat' of legal action you scumbags tried to scare onto the client. What kind of a perverse operation are you running?
     
    Jonchun, Jul 19, 2012 IP