Top in Yahoo but invisible at Google!

Discussion in 'Websites' started by spyder, Sep 14, 2004.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    I have a site that six months ago was at the top of both Google and Yahoo (hovering at No.1 - No. 2)

    It is now out of sight at G. but still at No. 1 at Yahoo.

    It is still at No. 1 using
    allinanchor:
    for the keyword at Google.

    Does anyone know how I might improve the situation at G?

    Thanks.
     
    spyder, Sep 14, 2004 IP
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  3. SEbasic

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    Are you talking about the site in your sig?

    That has a PR5... so shouldn't be invisible...

    I see you come up #2 in Y! for "Broadband Providers UK" (without the ")

    You're right, I can't find you in G. What are you using for the anchor text in your links? Is it always "Broadband Providers UK"?

    If so, it might be worth you while getting some links that point to the internal site pages with slightly different anchor text each time...
     
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  4. spyder

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    vlead ..... I note your point - and yes, we do have less links overall - but the keyword being searched for is at number 1 using allinanchor.
    You might be right in that the total number of links is the more important factor.


    SEbasic,
    <<<<
    Are you talking about the site in your sig?
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    No I wasn't ... but the site in the sig. is in a similar situation ...... so we could discuss it.

    <<<<
    What are you using for the anchor text in your links? Is it always "Broadband Providers UK"?
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    I would think 90% of the anchor text links say
    Broadband Providers UK

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    If so, it might be worth you while getting some links that point to the internal site pages with slightly different anchor text each time...
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    I do vary some of the anchor text links .... sometimes,
    Broadband Providers

    Is that still too similar?

    I think almost all external links points to the Home Page ... What's the thinking behind .... linking to some internal pages with a slightly different anchor text link?
     
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    I have found that the G algo is a little more responsive to links pointing to internal pages of a site, rather than the index page.

    I would normally have the site index quite generic (In terms of what I am targetting KW wise), then have pages more specific to each subject.

    For instance.

    I might have made the index page of that site target the KW "Broadband" (I wouldn't really expect to see results for that KW though ;)), then produce a page for each "neich" that I am targetting, say - UK BROADBAND PROVIDERS...

    Personally, I think I would vary the anchor text a little more than that, just to be on the safe side. It will be much easier for G to pick up requested links if they all have the same anchor text and point to the same place. I would probabally just have links saying "broadband" or "UK broadband", something along those lines...

    It's really just a case of trial and error.
     
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  6. spyder

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    Thanks all.

    So to try to get back to the top of G - I need to:

    1. Increase quantity and quality of IBLs.
    2. vary the anchor text keywords
    3. point some of the IBLs to the inner pages.

    Anyone has any further comments or disagree with any of the above?
     
    spyder, Sep 15, 2004 IP
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    I have looked at the SERPs again ....
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=broadband+providers+uk&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

    There is an amateur site at No. 9 that has only
    PR4 and about 66 links showing using
    link:www.ferreri . freeserve.co.uk

    Yet it managed to beat the news sub-domain of the BBC.
    which is at No 10:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/
    PR9
    about 77,700 links

    link:www.bbc.co.uk returned even more links .... at about 290,000

    So the "quantity and quality of the IBLs" might not be the over-riding factor then?

    Comments anyone?
     
    spyder, Sep 15, 2004 IP