Too Many Backlinks, Can get you banned?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by keral82, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. #1
    Hi,
    I am not a top rated SEO but I have read everywhere that when we get backlinks from FFA's and some other sites it really hurts our Page Rank!
    You all must have read all this everywhere. And we all believe it that it is true.

    Now What I object is that what would happen if I start blasting away at FFA's with google.com
    Will it affect its PR.
    Okay don't take Google.com.
    Take some other poor fellow who has 4 or 5 PR for his little dear website.

    Now he does'nt knows and If I again start blasting his Ads in FFA's then what will happen? His PR will get hurt.

    People use many words. Like gets hurt or dissolves etc. etc.

    But I don't think so. Do as much as you like It is not going to hurt. And I think it is also not going to make any better as long as PR is concerned.

    But if some lone visitor comes follwing that links then it is a bonus.

    I am not misguidig anyone here. Just think it your own way and then let me know. Because if website's PR would get hurt by posting to FFA's then every competitor would do that thing to the other.

    Yeah one more thing. Don't ever go to SEO's they promise you that they will get your site on top 10 or top 20

    Say if there are 21 web designers who want their websites in top 20 for keyword 'web design' Do you think they will say no to the 21st customer???

    They will promise all the 21 customers that their site will be in top 20 at google for 'web design' which is not logically possible. Even if they have that much power to bring websites on top.

    Post Your Comments.
     
    keral82, Oct 9, 2005 IP
  2. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    #2
    Basically you can't be hurt by sites that link to you, but you can by the sites YOU link to.
     
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  3. Jim_Westergren

    Jim_Westergren Notable Member

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    #3
    Exactly. Except in some extreme cases ...
     
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  4. relixx

    relixx Active Member

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    #4
    Plus, Pagerank means nothing, except to those who are still SEO beginners
     
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  5. angelfire

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    #5
    So be careful on to whom you link to.
     
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  6. just-4-teens

    just-4-teens Peon

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    #6
    Also remember its not about the amount of backlinks you gain, its about the quality of them, the more related the site that is linking to you the better it is for you.
     
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  7. theloans_org

    theloans_org Peon

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    #7
    Well, it's not always true. You can sometimes be hurt by sites that link to you. For example, when you get too many links on bad sites with the same anchor in a very short time, you can get sandboxed. However, this concerns mainly new sites.
     
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  8. dejaone

    dejaone Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Agree. Search engines look at patterns of link building. If a site got high percentage of low quality links too fast, it will decrease a site's quality score or trust rank. It's unlikely a competitor will spend huge amount of resources to trash many sites with large number of links. Links from a few bad sites won't hurt a site at all.
     
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  9. JEET

    JEET Notable Member

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    #9
    Meaning if a competitor submits by website to FFA pages using a software daily for the next 60 days , google will sandbox my website ?

    That's weird .

    Those kind of low quality links should not matter at all . It should be more like from poorly written affiliate websites may be .

    Regards
    Bye
     
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  10. zak

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    #10
    What you need to do is build links over a period of time, say 4-6 months

    Say your targeting the words "foo bar"
    You need to get a variety of backlinks for the words "foo bar" e.g.

    singular
    foo
    Foo
    bar
    Bar
    foo bar
    Foo Bar

    plural
    foo bars

    inside phrases
    buy foo bars online

    get about 80-100 backlinks for your targeted keywords

    repeat for other keywords you are targeting...


    Too many links at once will give you good rankings for a short while then your rankings will drop and you will be sandboxed...
     
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  11. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #11
    havn't you guys read the different coop tests, getting a huge amount of links at once, can hurt your sites rankings
     
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  12. JEET

    JEET Notable Member

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    #12
    What is a"safe" time period for "how many " links ?
     
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  13. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #13
    i thinks its usually an extemly large amount of links, like many thousands

    not, a couple hundred
     
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  14. zak

    zak Peon

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    #14
    100 links for each keyword your targeting is ok.

    target about 15 keyword, which makes about a 1500 links.

    This should get you some good traffic. Then keep on building from there...

    do it over a few months... static links are much better
     
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  15. keral82

    keral82 Banned

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    #15
    Still my question remains the saem what will happen if I start blasting at FFA's with google.com as my url and search engine as my keyword?
    If I blast away at 10,000 FFA's Daily then do you think google will ban itself?
     
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  16. Jim_Westergren

    Jim_Westergren Notable Member

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    #16
    This is the most funny post I have read today.

    I have no idea what would happen but I think nothing as Google is so powerful and trusted.

    "google will ban itself" - that is too funny.
     
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  17. keral82

    keral82 Banned

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    #17
    This isn't funny this is common sense question. Why you people can't understand what I am telling to you. If you think it is funny then don't collect back links and sit tight.
     
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  18. JEET

    JEET Notable Member

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    #18
    The problem is that you are considering something that is not possible . Google or any other search engine would not consider factors that can lead to "penalisation" of "your" website by something that "is not under your control".
    Someone linking to your website is not in your control "completely" . Let us say a "penalised" website links to you , then do you think that your website will get "penalised" ? No . That is "penalisation" I pointed out and FFA pages etc. are not penalised but degraded links . Note again , not in your control .

    As mentioned above links that are collected "fast" ( the time of which is unknown and is only predictable) are also seen as a sign of unfair link practice . These links are not from a "degraded source" but come from a "fairly" good source ( not yahoo homepage but fair like related websites etc. ) .
    "Eating to live is good and living to eat is not ."
    Excessive links like these ones are sure to "degrade " your page value for a short time and if the practice be continued , "can" lead to penalisation possibly .

    Next thing you should see here is that the websites are "good quality websites" themselves . And a huge massive link back from such websites is an indication of "paid advertising " which is the basis of the whole unfair link practice . None of your competitor will "get" you these links . I am a website designer and so are you I guess . Would you work on getting me lots of links from quality websites without me knowing it ?
    No of course .

    Don't fear something that has already been thought and worked out . Just ask yourself "would google penalise itself ?"
    You know the answer .

    Regards
    Jeet
     
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  19. keral82

    keral82 Banned

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    #19
    I was just supporting my initial post. I was explaining Jim about penalization of back links. And my initial post is also baout it. If you want to write huge and useless articles then start your own thread. Because you are repeating whatever I have already mentioned by starting this post.
     
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  20. Jim_Westergren

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    Hi Keral,

    I apologise if you took offense when I thought your post was funny - was not meant to make fun of you only that the idea that Google will ban itself was funny for me.

    To answer your original question I think that you would get a penalty but with for example Google it would not be noticed.

    Anyway if you are planning to do that on a competitor I advise you to not do it and I hope you will not - also you might give him 10 000 backlinks without your intented penalty.
     
    Jim_Westergren, Oct 11, 2005 IP