Tony Blair's sister-in-law converts to Islam

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  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #61
    I guess you don't read the news. Sectarian violence in Islam is on the rise, not the decline. The fatwah's of Shi'a will never be accepted by the Sunni. Are you saying you accept Shi'a fatwah as Islamic law?
     
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    betaturn Peon

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    #62
    Sometimes reality is not what it seems. Ground reality is different. Muslim umma is uniting, not as shia, not as sunni, but as Muslims who believe in Islamic laws of Quran and Sunnah.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #63
    Tell me about this ground reality. I'm fascinated! Does it require facts, or can we just make them up? In this alternate reality, can people fly? Does this alternate reality bring back to life the tens of thousands of Shi'a who died in Iraq at the hands of the Sunni?

    So you accept Shi'a fatwah as Islamic law? We cant simply ignore the writings of our respected elders.
     
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    betaturn Peon

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    #64
    Shia may join Muslims who are struggling for true success if they want to or they may choose to follow there own path its up to them.
    About the 80's shia - sunni conflict, who was behind all that, Muslims were just the tools.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #65
    News flash. Iran is the big dog. Shi'a are in charge. If there is to be a new Caliphate, it will be Shi'a led and you Sunni's will have to fall in line.

    80's, 2000's, it is ignorant people like yourself who were behind it. People who claimed to be Muslims but would not acknowledge the Shi'a fatwahs. The Shi'a will never believe as you do. Get over it.
     
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    betaturn Peon

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    #66
    It was USA who was in support of Iraq and provided biological weapons to Iraq to fight against Iran. Its all a part of history, but since you did not make it to high school, you are just ignorant, don't know the plain facts.
    Don't you ever talk back to my posts. Get some education first.
     
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    #67
    Muslims are generally more desirable to convert people to their religion.
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #68
    What does any of that have to do with the FACT the Shi'a well never allow themselves to be ruled in a Sunni Caliphate? Why won't you answer the question of whether or not you will accept Shi'a fatwah? It seems you have nothing to say in defense of your nonsense, so you are trying to change the topic.


    Was that a personal threat? What are you going to do if I do?
     
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    #69
    Why are you both fighting. You are also fighting on other thrraeds too.
     
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    #70
    according to shriah law she can't return or convert to another religion. it has capital punishment.
     
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    #71
    yeah right but some Islamic guys think Arabic one is more trustable and English translation is not certain enough.
     
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    Obamanation
    You illustrate a real fact about Shiites and Sunnis. I think they have fundamental differences.
    Shiite specially Iranian hate three first caliphs so much especially Umar or Omar who invaded Iran.
    Iranian built a tomb for memorial of Piruz who assassinated Umar (second caliph). you have to know that Umar khatab is one of holiest person for Sunnis.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu-Lu%27lu%27ah

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    #73
    That's been Osama bin Laden's plan all along. He's been working for decades towards that goal. But, it doesn't have much support in Indonesia (the largest Islamic nation on Earth) or even Malaysia. Most non-Arab Muslims don't want to be ruled by Arabs.
     
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    #74
    That's right. The Islamic mafia dons wouldn't like Arabians wielding sharia to confiscate their business
     
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    #75

    Its disputed therefore its discussed online and offline :-0
     
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    #76
    More and more people are coming to islam.

    East west, Islam is the best, no one can understand until he taste pure islam. do not judge religion islam by muslimls behavior but study islam. Its not necessarily true that every muslim is following the teaching of islam.

    Its a blessing, great gift from God to all mankind.
    Islam! my way of life , Thanks to Allah SWT who has given me the precious blessing of ISlam and changed my life.
     
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    #77
    So we shouldn't blame Islam for the completely retarded post you just made?

    The more I read the Quran and Hadiths, the more I realize that Osama bin Laden is exactly correct in his interpretation of them.

    Anyone who thinks Islam is a peaceful religion is an idiot.
     
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    IsraeI Peon

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    #78
    The Quran is only in Arabic.

    The translations you see is the interpretation of the "meanings" of the Quran, therefore the translated Quran is not Quran but rather the meanings, and some translators may even get the meaning wrong.

    The best thing to do before people start bashing Islaam is to check if the translation is correct and see if the Ayah (verse) is not out of context.

    Best translation is from Dr Muhsin Khan.
     
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    #79
    Blahahaha... you're one of the Salafi Keyboard Kids. Just wait until you get Salafi Burnout:
    This phenomenon, which we might label 'salafi burnout', is a recognised feature of many modern Muslim cultures. An initial enthusiasm, gained usually in one's early twenties, loses steam some seven to ten years later. Prison and torture - the frequent lot of the Islamic radical - may serve to prolong commitment, but ultimately, a majority of these neo-Muslims relapse, seemingly no better or worse for their experience in the cult-like universe of the salafi mindset.​
     
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  20. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #80
    You have to like Tony. He's obviously a skilled orator and politician, and even though he made the decision to invade Iraq, it is clear from the video below he has nothing against Islam. Check it out, Hitchens vs. Blair on religion. You'll need an hour to watch them all, but its worth the time.

    [video=youtube;4JDCHPF8m7g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JDCHPF8m7g [/video]
     
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