We're not there to take control of their oil fields. That's been established and documented very well. The oil in Iraq belongs to Iraqi's, though there are a number of countries who want to make claim to it, because of the debts saddam owed them. As for the rest, I'd have to see solid sources before I accepted it. We're fighting terrorists in Iraq. They use money from countries like Spain who have paid them off, like Qatar who pays for protection: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1592472,00.html
It is a fight over Trillions of dollars worth of oil GTech, no matter who is there fighting, that is what the fight is over
Call it what you will, we're not there for their oil and we've made it clear that Iraq oil belongs to the Iraqi people. We're not mining it now, and it will be another ten years before Iraq can get anywhere near being able to complete with the sale of oil on the world market. If we were like the UN oil thieves, then that would be another topic for debate. But I know you are not fond of talking about the UN oil thieves, and those countries that were bought off with saddam's oil vouchers.
Well by claiming UN Oil scandals that must mean that the whole thing is simply an oil play no matter who the players are GTech Now we must let the Brit's have this one back, I have to go to bed and go to work all week in the hot Sun on a brick crew GTech. So it is their thread, let them argue about Blair and Howard, as always GTech, good talking with you
Yea, I've gotta finish a site up. Was fun, as always! For those following along, Anthony and I are not mad at each other. We do this, call it a day, and come back tomorrow for a Halliburton thread. I disagree with just about everything Anthony says, but I respect that he doesn't take things personally and we can go round and round, no hard feelings, and call it a day. Take care Anthony
Yea, that would be cool. Then I wouldn't have to live in this cardboard box from the economy that Bush ruined Even a blog, that would be cool. I enjoy knocking it around with Anthony. At the end of the day, we can wrap it up, and come back tomorrow without hard feelings. It's not every day you run across an opportunity like that on the web.
Let us hope Tony Blair is defeated today, if he wins let us hope his party loses seats in Parliament so he is a true lame duck like Bush is in the USA
He is up in the polls (Do you know his opponents Anthony?) so it will be interesting to see what happens. What do you think of Clinton endorsing him Anthony?
My Gran saw Tony Blair yesterday. He was in Dumfries and visited the community centre behind her house. A friend took her round in her wheel chair and he was about to come over and speak to her when he got diverted to someone else lol. She's always getting herself into those situations. I'll be voting for Gordon Brown today
Trying to keep Foreign Nationals like me out of Scotland? Actually I am only kidding, I think that whole thing is blown out of proportion and listening to him at the question and answer period he seemed to be more in support of reform so those who deserve asylum get it. Why aren't you voting for your fellow countryman Charles Kennedy
Tony Blair and Clinton were best friends when Clinton was President, so that is no surprise. The bottom line is that Clinton was no good for the USA because he picked an idiot like Gore for VP. Gore was an idiot for not letting Clinton campaign for him and let Bush in to steal the 2000 Election. So it seems they all suck. Let us hope Blair gets run out on a Buckboard for supporting Bush and his Oil War, Blair and Bush both work for the same people, "The Bank of England" and the "Oil Companies"
Blair will benefit from the same thing that benefitted Bush...No real competition. When people vote it will either be "for Blair" or "Anyone but Blair" I predict a Blair win because when it comes down to it, people are voting for domestic issues, not the war on Iraq No worries though Anthony as he already promised to step down if elected
I've just found that the tories approach to this campaign is "Look at Labour smirking over there" "Don't vote for them because they'll be full of it if they win". It's so petty. They could have spent this time explaining their policies and what good things they are going to do instead of this school playground banter. I'm fairly impressed with the way Labour have handled the economy and while there isn't really any parties which represent my moral concerns, I reckon Labour are the closest.
This is the key and I don't understand why they didn't learn from the US election. Kerry tried to just get the anti-Bush vote and campaigned on Bush's negatives. Most people didn't vote for him because they had no idea what he stood for.
I agree 100%, people would have respected him had he at least had the balls to say "Clinton is my friend and I didn't do it"
Thanks for that enlightning comment! I am definitely going to vote Labour now with all those positive points you mentioned
Yes, Fab2004 god.. those points you made really helped me make up my mind. Your excellent comment just swung it for me. Thanks for that brilliant insight, and to think what I would have done if I haden't read your point of view on this matter. *shudders at the thought*
Don't vote for a lame duck (Tony Blair) Weirfire, vote for change PS: Mella would not vote anyway, so don't believe her PSS: Mella who is that hot long legged chick in your avatar
I know Mella!! It's so rare to have someone really pour out such intellect and insight into a matter. What amazes me is someone with such brilliance would have the time to share some of his thoughts with us. It really is generous of him. I sure see fab4004 as a great role model and will certainly be joining his fan club this very minute