Anthony, Isreal goes back much farther than 1948. Israel was Israel long before muslims savagely conquered it (and most of the world) in the spread of islam.
International Law website can be found at http://www.un.org/law/ Have to warn you though, the design leaves something to be desired, and the colors hurt the eyes edit: after doing some reading, the international criminal court does NOT try cases involving terrorism, but may be added in a future review. http://www.un.org/News/facts/iccfact.htm
Go back in the Old Testament GTech, you can read about when Moses brought the real children of Israel out of Egypt there.
So you agree, Israel was Israel long before islam was invented? One little step of progress at a time. http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_06.html
Go read the story about how Abraham's wife could not have a child so he had a child by the servant girl, that child was Ishmael GTech for your information and he is the father of what we call Muslims today. God himself said that that man would be set against every man and every man against him for your intelligence needs, so blame God and try to fight with him if you wish. Your the one that has zero grasp of the truth here.
You are correct in that the bible does talk about that...but then again, the 'truth' of all that depends on if one believes the bible is accurate
So what you are saying, in a round about way, is that Israel was Israel long before 1948? That's what I thought you were trying to say. Thanks for the offer to read, but I know my history well enough. Well enough to know Israel was Israel before 1948. I'm glad you agree with that too
Forgive me for not doing my research... But can you briefly explain what isreal has to do with this thread? or how it all correlates?
I guess you don't understand that this is the main reason we are fighting these people because of their hate of what men call Israel, I thought everyone understood that
The way I think of it is that we are always going to be fighting someone or something. The reasons why are usually not that important and are always up to speculation.
This is a battle for control of Oil, that is why they want us out of the oil fields, when Trillions of dollars are at stake it simply means that the war will not end because men will continue to fight over money. Bush is now begging for help from these countries that SiteTutor thinks are not important, so it goes to show you where his head is.
I don't see Bush begging, Anthony, I see him reaching out. That is what you wanted him to do, correct?
Israel has nothing to do with oil fields. Nor does killing infidels have anything to do with Israel. Your oil scandal is with the UN, you just don't have the ability to realize it. Bush is asking countries to help, and many are. Some were bought out by Saddam and have since been caught red handed for such. Still, we offer them the opportunity to be a part of the effort, which is succeeding, despite your wishes it wasn't.
Anthony, BUDDY!!!!! Hah hahahaaaaaaaa, let's go:O) Sitetutor said This is the same old same old I hear constantly from neo-cons that just don't understand there is a world outside the US that gets unbiased and propagandaist news. No one is jealous of the US, they are sick of the US and it is a worldwide phenomonem. PROVE that anyone is jealous, OKAY??? I am not at all jealous, I think King Bush and his ultra-right Fundamentalists are undermining freedom and democracy in a way you can only fear in your nightmares. The US is trying to destabilize the Mid East, and they have had more than large and ample opportunities to show compassion and help oppressed people and nations, even just feed people, let alone invade their countries, but they haven't. It doesn't even make sense for onwe second to think that the Bush regime is altruistic. The Neo-cons are out of control (see senator about saying Supreme court justices are out of control for not cow-towing to the governments attempts to pass legislation that contravenes your own charter of rights), they wan6t to rewrite textbooks, they want to impose their laser-beam narrow view of religious morality, and $$$$$ worship on the rest of the world, and so on. When will you people get it through your heads that others have different values, that we don't give a hoot about military power, that we would rather spend money on making people have access to basic human need of medical care and clean water, and a philosophy of enviornmentalism that understands what is going an and realizes that this mad corporate consumerism is destroying the planet, destroying human spirituality, and destroying trust. Bush and cons are the biggest and most audacious hypocrites of all time in any developed country, they are undermining and twisting the ideas your country was founded on for their own motives and purpose. Don't get me wrong, I not only don't admire that, I despise it with all my understanding and capacity. I cannot stand the sight of Bush and quotes from the ultra-right wing Moral inquisition majority, they make me sick with their blatant disregard for minority rights and even majority opinion, and their self-endowed 'agents of God' status. Why in the world would we be (read the rest of the world) jealous of something we despise??? Why would we be jealous of a country that is systematically being destroyed economically, one that will not be able to pay-off thei4r5 INTEREST PAYMENTS on their debt in 10 years?? One that the people are hated and mistreated, rightly or wrongly, in the rest of the world?? Tell me, sitetutor, please explain to me why we would be jealous, okay? Oh, this post is far to long, but I will be back to give multiple links to news sources that thoroughly substantiate my points above. They are numerous, and omnipresent on the news agencies in the rest of the world. Uh, GTech, you want to explain this one? Succeeding??? LMFAO. Tell me how you get this fantasy to manifest as reality, please?
I was not referring to Canada, or the UK, or Australia ... only certain nations such as the ones I have named.
Ok, just a few things... 1) Don't generalize everyone in the United States. There are millions of people here, with a variety of viewpoints. I don't appreciate being referred to as 'you people'. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but leave it to the person you are debating with, not the whole country. 2) While you may wish to 'spend money on making people have access to basic human needs, etc etc', that is quite foolish to think the rest of the world agrees. In many countries worldwide it is still legal to beat women, they are treated as property and it is acceptable for them to be treated worse then animals. I think they would disagree with you on what they view as important. 3) I am not a fan of President Bush, and hated the fact he was re-elected. But when compared to the international theater of politics, he is not all that ultra-right winged. US is fairly moderate in comparision to many countries. I still dislike most of his policies however. I guess my point is this.....your post is obvisouly an emotional one, which you have a right to, but don't lump everyone in the US in the same category, and don't assume that everyone outside the US will have the same agenda. That's simply not the way the world works.