to TGP or not to TGP

Discussion in 'General Business' started by Pepy, May 21, 2008.

  1. #1
    things are standing something like this

    got a nice domain for TGP,and have been thinking to try something in this kind business for a long time.

    I'm not pro,but I've succeeded in establishing arcade site in 6 months.from 0 to average 1200/UV a day,pr 3(probably 4 soon) already made around 6 times of what I've invested(script,template,hosting,some traffic... )

    I've checked few topics including this

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=547976

    which is old,but the point is there


    and this
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=841262

    which is veery useful, have added +rep for Barefootsies,because he got main problem exposed. 99,9% are not hard workers.I understand I have to start with something I'm comfortable with(like it was with arcade games) and I'm able to work about 1h/day(adding content,submitting,link building..ect)

    My personal plan is to establish quality content and steady traffic,then I'll think about monetizing it properly.Although ''legal'' content might be a problem with monetization,because content given by advertisers is mostly like last year movie.So it'll be hard to balance between legal content being affiliate and hot content for submitting on big sites.

    so here we go,I might be able to bring in around few hundreds

    it's obvious i need a :domain(got it prepared),tgp script,tgp design(got TGP factory in mind,for affordable $75), traffic trade script(dont know much about this one,only that it's maybe most expensive part)

    and ofc

    I need hosting.dedicated is probably out of my reach,at least until I got some steady income but that's probably not going to happen first several months,so I'm interested would TGP work fine with VPS ?

    and ,question for the end

    are TGPs counting their last days,since streaming sites are taking over the business?
     
    Pepy, May 21, 2008 IP
  2. nonyf

    nonyf Guest

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    #2
    I'm not familiar with TGP... What is it? Appreciate the insight in advance. Thanks & Take Care.
     
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  3. Pepy

    Pepy Well-Known Member

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    Pepy, May 22, 2008 IP
  4. Pepy

    Pepy Well-Known Member

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    none interested in discussion:confused:

    none to answer? :(
     
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  5. TTS

    TTS Peon

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    I would suggest not to TGP. Unless you already have well established adult traffic don't bother. You are much better off starting a "tube" style site and streaming video. A lot of sponsors now have hosted vids that you can stream.

    And yes, you would be fine on a virtual
     
    TTS, May 22, 2008 IP
  6. Barefootsies

    Barefootsies Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect.

    There are now hundreds, if not thousands all trying to do the exact same thing. If you are doing a tube, look around, research and find a way to offer something different.

    True a lot offer them now.

    Being 'fine' on virtual depends on how you set up your site. Length of videos, and many other factors. Such blanket statements are dangerous, and it's why you see many tube sites for sale. People get into them with their $2 virtual plans, and should it take off, they lose their ass and have to sell.

    That's common knowledge on any board.

    2 cents
     
    Barefootsies, May 22, 2008 IP
  7. Barefootsies

    Barefootsies Well-Known Member

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    #7
    TGP's are still money makers, but they take a lot of time and work. There are ways to increase your chances of success, but even on those. It's a long term investment.

    Most who get into this are trying the "break the house" in 1-2 months.

    It's not going to happen. But if you stay focused, remains consistent, and plug away for 3-6-9 months. You should start making money. Most people who claim that it's a waste of money are those who give up in 2 months, then become 'experts'. :rolleyes:

    Any site, pay site, TGP, link list, etc takes time, and consistency to make it. All you have to do is look at what's out there, and they lack, then provide it. Keep plugging away, and doing you updates, link building, some tricks, and maybe even throw some traffic at it while not jerking off the surfer in a circle jerk ,and you'll grow over time.

    It's a lot harder now a days, but can be done like any type of site or market. You just have to cater to what others do not. Or find a niche.

    Thanks for the rep by the way. Glad I could help hoss.
     
    Barefootsies, May 22, 2008 IP
  8. redz

    redz Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you, its more towards video's now, redtube and sites like that, they are bringing in massive traffic and earning top dollars.
     
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  9. Barefootsies

    Barefootsies Well-Known Member

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    #9
    This,.... is a falsity.

    While they are the 'rave', I am not sure what business you are in toots?

    You have a handful doing well, Redtube was up for sale, as are about a hundred others. Why? They can't pay the bandwidth bill, or they are using illegal content. Two things left out in this thread of 'hot tips'. :rolleyes:

    Not sure what pulse of the industry you have your finger on, but you might wanna get out a bit more. For 75% of those trying tubes, they are failures. I don't know about you toots, but that is not a successful business model.

    No offense.
     
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  10. Pepy

    Pepy Well-Known Member

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    that's what I've noticed.

    tube sites are all around the net,like mushrooms after rain.And it's probably harder to manage em, since bandwidth and legal content might be some troubles.

    I'm interested if you can enlighten me about traffic script.Is that some kind of network,where you pay license for joining and traffic exchange works as a circke jerk?



    I've also been thinking about ctr monetization part.
    My intuition is telling me that ctr must be higher on tgp sites when comparing to tube sites.
     
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  11. TTS

    TTS Peon

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    Wrong, Redtube was/is up for sale because of the pressure put on the owner(s) due to them also owning two very popular affiliate programs.

    2 cents
     
    TTS, May 23, 2008 IP
  12. Barefootsies

    Barefootsies Well-Known Member

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    Heh.

    Yeah. I am sure that's why all those other 100 tubes are for sale as well right toots? Must be all those 'pressures'.

    :rolleyes:

    Keep the two cents. Sounds like you need it to buy a clue.
     
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    Barefootsies Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Honestly bud, what you need to do is start narrowing things down to a niche or what you are looking to do, like baby steps.

    From the O.P. to this one, you have a lot of different business models you are looking at, and very different angles.

    To be frank, the range of questions are just too broad for me to provide you a good direction. You need to take all these good ideas, and start funneling them down to what you really want to accomplish.

    Are you looking for affiliate and sponsor sales as a form of revenue, or are you looking to get into traffic brokering like a circle jerk if you are going with a TGP.

    If you are looking at tubes, what are you going to different from the rest? Are you going to do only a certain NICHE tube, like lesbians? Are you going to offer pictures and video? Are you going to be legal and comply with 2257 and then go straight to porn companies to get your advertising deal on that premise?

    As you can see, those are a lot of different things. You really have to sharpen down what you want to do before I, or anyone, could throw some good advice to you on how best to monetize.

    Sorry if that sounds rude or blunt, but it's really just trying to help you get focused for better feedback, and help mate.
     
    Barefootsies, May 23, 2008 IP
  14. Pepy

    Pepy Well-Known Member

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    okey,I've thought about sticking with babe niche,because that's where I think I can do some easiest plugs from other sites.Babe galleries can pass as regular nudism.

    np man,thanks for infos :)
     
    Pepy, May 23, 2008 IP
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    KangBroke Notable Member

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    Im kinda shocked at all I have read off this thread. Any adult webmaster knows TGP's Will live on and make descent money forever. There will always be those with slow connections who have a thing for images. not only that it is easier for them to jerk it and cover up the evidence if all they goto is TGP's, And as far as finding a niche goes, yes all have been done thousands of times. But there is new porn everyday of every year.

    You should stick with one niche per site unless its a Tube site or a link dump site. And Why only go for one niche, Honestly you should try to build up one of each niche and then you should see the income enough to launch a pay site, and maybe even start your own affiliate network with your own sites. You are only as limited as you let yourself be. There is always someone looking to jerk it 24/7 and you can buy content that nobody else has. Then when you build a TGP you have to personally choose a picture you like from the gallery of the girl/guy and crop it and upload to SmartThumbs/ComisThumbs. Unless you import the database's than you will have the same things as everyone else.

    Many companies found out a long time ago certain things will sell no matter what. If you have 3 Tit sites all TGP you can use the same galleries for all 3 as long as you name the site something different than the other sites. You will always make money off porn if you have any knowledge of marketing at all.

    And nobody mentioned that the MGP sites are dying down due to the bootleggers running those free tube sites with full length dvds, and no help of course from the torrent world. Honestly unless you have the money to shoot your own porn, or have the money to launch a nice pay site of any kind it will be a slow process at first. Just dont ever give up and try to add new content to your sites and everything will be fine. Just remember nothing good comes quick, Good things come to those who wait!
     
    KangBroke, Nov 8, 2008 IP
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    Aatma Well-Known Member

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    I am wondering how useful are TGPs for generating massive loads of traffic. Not to make money but just to gain huge traffic which then can be utilised as I wish
    Can someone please comment if TGPs can do it easily and cheaply? At least be better than buying traffic most of which is crap anyways
     
    Aatma, Nov 25, 2008 IP