To most Jews, Jesus was nothing but an impostor. Simply irrelevant!

Surely they can’t be both right.

Judaism in principle rejects the prophecy of Jesus, his existence is irrelevant to their believe. To them he is labelled a false prophet ("And the members of the outlaws of your nation would be carried to make a (prophetic) vision stand. And they stumbled" ) in the same category as you would label Mohammed .

Christians believe the opposite to be true about Jesus.

They can’t be both right!

The irony is that the only people in this world that supports the claim about the divinity of Jesus are the Muslims and no body else.

You say that “If those books all point to Jesus”. Well that’s your problem! The books don’t point to Jesus according to Judaism; it’s your interpretations that make you point that way. With open interpretation any Muslim could easily look into those books and point to the last prophet Mohammed, and believe me there are actually many who say that.


I’m not talking about America or Israel, neither do I talk about love or hate it’s purely academic.

 

Judaism doesn't reject the prophesies of a Messiah, who we know as Jesus, they just reject Jesus as the Messiah. Do you see the difference?

All the books point to the Messiah (Jesus), just not all by the name of Jesus, the Jews are looking for the conquering Messiah that would set them physically free not spiritually free, that is why they reject Jesus, He didn't set them free physically from oppression.

Muslims don't acknowledge the divinity of Jesus, they think He was only a prophet.

Muslims do try to stretch every verse in the Bible to either make the Bible out to be wrong or evil some how and then take the next verse to somehow point to mohamad. mohamad can't be the last prophet because he is the opposite of everything God represents, why would he said an anti-prophet in His name?

 

Therefore according to Judaism, Jesus was not a prophet or Messiah and only claiming to be the Messiah. What does this make Jesus, delusional or con man?

 

Judaism rejects everything about Jesus messiah or not. That's not my view, it's theirs. Perhaps you haven't read this yet:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=3867699&postcount=48

 

Your problem is that you are using old testament, Torah and different rabbis opinion while for debunk there is only one authoritative book on this subject and that is "Judaism according to neo-cons or how to kiss the state of Israel ass."

 

The Testinonium Flavianum has been debunked so many times it's become a joke..... yet Christianity still drags Josephus out, kicking and screaming to be left in peace. The paragraph in question is a fake and has been accepted as such by historians on both sides of the divide. The proof comes from the fact that while Josephus's works was known to the earlier church fathers, there is no reference to the paragraph in support of Jesus' historicity until the time of Eusebius, well into the fourth century. Even the church father Origen says that Josephus did not believe that Jesus was the messiah. An unlikely statement, if the passage existed during Origen's time. These considerations, when coupled with the obviously Christian wordings of the paragraph, shows conclusively that the passage Antiquities 18:3:3 is an early Christian insertion. In short, pious forgery.

Now these other "historians of the day". To whom are you referring?

 

It is kind of like Bible itself, ever changing and fantasized additions of new "miracles" during hundreds of years.

 

Have a bad word for the quran or hadith?

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.177

Always eager to criticize support for Jews, but never quite eager to point out the obvious, eh?

 

How is your post even related to what I posted?

Obviously you have no answer in regard to my post so you just post your usual rant that you have posted hundreds of time before. Your cheer leaders squad must be really made of morons to think of you as their queen based on these stupid copy and paste posts. How old are they? They must be really young if a sissy like you has fooled them to believe that you are a man.

Please keep on clowning, I always enjoy laughing at you and I am still laughing at you.

 

So I was correct? Only a bad word for Christians and Jews, and their books, but not islam. Thanks, just a simple confirmation was all I was looking for

Oddly, never received a response on this one. I'm sure it was just a "minor" oversight

 

No, only bad word for morons like who are too much of a sissy to actually fight but are always ready to be just another loud mouth cheer leader.

You didn't answer if your cheer leaders squad really believes you when you pretend to be a man or they just don't want to hurt the queen's feeling.

Keep on clowning. Everybody can see that you are just another sissy and they are laughing at you and I am still laughing at you.

 

Again, I thank you for that confirmation. "Death to Jews, Death to Israel!"

 

Queen of cheer leaders is getting mad again. You are so funny when you are angry. I just have so much fun pointing out what a sissy you are. How did army failed to make you a man? Giving you so many pay checks and you just stayed the same sissy as you started.

Keep on clowning. You are my own personal clown and I am still laughing at you. Your act of pretending to be a man is the best comedy I have seen in years.

 

Judaism, Christianity and Islam, claim to emanate from the One and same Creator? But where do their way parts?
Answr :- All prophets from Adam to Muhammad were sent with the same message: man's total submission to Allah. In Arabic, this submission is called "Islam," which also means peace, peace between the Creator and His creatures. Unlike the names Judaism and Christianity, the name Islam was given by Allah Himself, as mentioned in Surah 5:3: This day I have perfected your religion for you and completed My favour on you, and have chosen for you Islam as your way of life. Neither "Judaism" nor "Christianity" is found in the Bible or in a Bible dictionary. No Israelite prophet said the word "Judaism." Jesus never claimed to establish Christianity and never called himself a Christian. The word "Christian" is mentioned only three times in the New Testament and first by pagans and Jews in Antioch about 43 A.D., long after Jesus had left this earth. Read in Acts 11:26: "... And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

Later by King Agrippa II to Paul in Acts 26:28: "Then Agrippa said unto Paul" Almost thou persuades" me to be a Christian.' '

So the name Christian was first given by foes rather than friends. And finally by Peter in his letter to comfort the faithful in I Peter 4: 16: "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed.... "

The first Muslim on earth was not Muhammad but Abraham, who submitted totally to Allah. But Islam as a way of life had been revealed to other prophets prior to Abraham, such as Adam and Noah. Then Islam follows as the way of life for all humanity.

 

All prophets from Adam to Muhammad were sent with the same message: man's total submission to Allah. In Arabic, this submission is called "Islam," which also means peace, peace between the Creator and His creatures. Unlike the names Judaism and Christianity, the name Islam was given by Allah Himself, as mentioned in Surah 5:3: This day I have perfected your religion for you and completed My favour on you, and have chosen for you Islam as your way of life. Neither "Judaism" nor "Christianity" is found in the Bible or in a Bible dictionary. No Israelite prophet said the word "Judaism." Jesus never claimed to establish Christianity and never called himself a Christian. The word "Christian" is mentioned only three times in the New Testament and first by pagans and Jews in Antioch about 43 A.D., long after Jesus had left this earth. Read in Acts 11:26: "... And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

Later by King Agrippa II to Paul in Acts 26:28: "Then Agrippa said unto Paul" Almost thou persuades" me to be a Christian.' '

So the name Christian was first given by foes rather than friends. And finally by Peter in his letter to comfort the faithful in I Peter 4: 16: "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed.... "

The first Muslim on earth was not Muhammad but Abraham, who submitted totally to Allah. But Islam as a way of life had been revealed to other prophets prior to Abraham, such as Adam and Noah. Then Islam follows as the way of life for all humanity.
And Allah says in Holly Quran that Jesus is the Messiah translated Christ

 

Why do you bother with him GTech ?
all his recent 100 posts are almost identical with "sissy cheerleader" crap.
He does not stand for his own claims, he avoids questions, and he posts the same repeated cowshit again and again.
I think more people are laughing at you, gworld, rather than GTech.

 

Exactly, Gworld is just getting worse, he doesn't counter arguments or even answer simple questions. He bumbles on giving his opinion & refuses to accept anything else, even common sense.

Everyone here knows who he is & what he's about so the best thing to do is just ignore the fool, soon he will learn.

 

funny thing is, they are not explained wht muhammad said something like that? what is the story behind it?

i quote from the same source you have

funny isn't ?
so muslim hate jews?
why salahadin (muslim) protected them in crusade? while european knight (they are not muslim) slaughtered them?
why nazi hate jews? they not muslim?

 

I thought the HISSY SISSY was leaving but he is still here, so may be you can answer what is the reason that you don't serve your country in time of war:

1) "medical"
2) convicted felon
3) just another yellow belly loud mouth

 

Christianity is entirely Jewish in origin:
• Jesus was born of the tribe of Judah.
• His chosen apostle-leaders were all Jewish.
• The Scriptures from which early Christians preached, before the New Testament was written, were the books of the Hebrew bible.
• It was far into the history of the early Church (as recorded in the Book of Acts) before the Jewish-originated Christian Church even thought that a Gentile could be a genuine Christian.
• With the possible exception of Luke (debatable), the 27 books of the Christian New Testament were written by Jews.

Those who declare that Christianity falsely tries to create a "Jewish connection" simply do not know the history of Christianity. Its roots were thoroughly and indisputably Jewish.