To most Jews, Jesus was nothing but an impostor. Simply irrelevant!

It is a king James version of Bible which is a standard and accepted bible. I am linking to a Bible study web site, so you don't assume that is made up by atheists.

King James Version (KJV) Acts - Chapter 3

 

NRSV is more the standard these days...there is even a NKJV that is more accepted than the "authorized" version.

 

Here is the link to the same quote in NRSV

act 3:23

 

Okay that's fine I just wanted you to establish that it was Acts 3 - lets look into the context surrounding the verses you quoted ... Acts 3:12-26:-

So firstly Peter is not suggesting that anyone Jew or otherwise should be put to death and he is certainly not suggesting or encouraging any Christian to behave violently toward any other person.
Peter is here showing that what happened to Jesus was as prophecied, not just by Moses but by other Hebrew prophets - so the words you apply to Peter actually are his quoting the prophetic words of others.

Rather than encouraging violence toward Jews or anyone else Peter acknowledged that they had acted in ignorance of Jesus being the Messiah and he encouraged them to repent of their sin and turn back to God by exercising faith in Christ Jesus.
If they would repent of their actions and turn to be a follower of Jesus they would benefit from the fulfillment of the promises made to Abraham and his offspring the blessings that would be given to all of faithfull mankind.
So rather than encouraging violence Peter was encouraging others to put on the Christian personality, follow Jesus and his teachings and benefit from the blessings that would flow from God.

 

I just pulled out my NIB commentary on those verses and came to much the same conclusion. Peter is asking the people to repent and to follow Jesus. Thats it in a nutshell.

 

Fine let's not go back 5000 years. Just tell me when your history book starts and I’ll find you horrendous crimes committed against humanity by Christians directly or indirectly under the banner of the cross. I’ve been reading about Christian history for quite a while and I’m afraid I could only see blood stains everywhere. Throughout the Christian history there have always been wars not peace as you have claimed.

Just give me a start year and I’ll present your history as it is.

Here I'm talking about comparative religions in practical terms if you’re referring to the comparison on a theological ground then that’s ok, I can do that too.

 

The Bible nut cases strike again. If any person and especially Muslims say that I want to destroy you, then it means they are violent and killers but when Peter says to the Jews:

then it means, I am a nice person, you are a nice people, let's kiss and hug.

Shall

• 1. plan to, intend to, or expect to
• 2. will have to, is determined to, or definitely will
• 3. (in laws, directives, etc.) must; is or are obliged to

Destroy

• 1. to reduce (an object) to useless fragments, a useless form, or remains, as by rending, burning, or dissolving; injure beyond repair or renewal; demolish; ruin; annihilate.
• 2. to put an end to; extinguish.
• 3. to kill; slay.
• 4. to render ineffective or useless; nullify; neutralize; invalidate.
• 5. to defeat completely.
• –verb (used without object) 6. to engage in destruction.

It is a common problem that people try to interpret the bible as they like it to mean instead of reading what it actually says.

 

Which is exactly what you are doing!
You are attributing words incorrectly to Peter, in refering to Jesus he is quoting the fulfillment of prophecy given by Moses, he says "For Moses says ..." and continues to quote the words you mis-apply.
Peter encourages repentance and salvation, not death or violence.
Moses was not a Christian, he was an Israelite and spoke concerning Gods law given to him at Mount Sinai when he received the 10 commandments (and around 600 other regulations for the Israelites).

What you are doing is taking a few words totally out of context and using them to prove your point, but you are blatantly wrong.

 

You must be right, people quite often mention and quote things that they don't agree with, just for the hell of it, specially in Bible.

Read the quote and think again if you think you are fooling anyone with your nonsense.

 

No need, you are plainly and clearly wrong and the evidence is clear in the context of the verses.
You are plucking a few words totally out of context as anyone can see.

 

I am not talking about history. And this thread is also is not started about history. It was asking about the reason behind the friendship between Judaism and christianity. In 21st century.
I know all religions have /had violence in them. When you compare the violence among them in 21st century christianity and judaism are the most peaceful or least violent. That's what I was talking about.
I am not making excuses for the violence of christians or jews in medieval times. That was a fact then. But they grew up to be where they are today, much more peaceful. Islam was violent then & is today. I expect Islam to grow up much faster. I expect you not to make excuses for Islam for its violence in the 21st century at least.

 

this thread discuss about jews and christians.
suddenly someone bring islam in it, i wonder why?

 

Because I was comparing the level of violence among religions today.

 

yes, you are still here...

no, I will not hug and kiss you....also, I think you are taking it out of context. I see it as a speach about the last days, or the day of judgement.

 

You see it.

So Peter didn't know what he was talking about but you see it. May be you should try to write your own bible. This is King James Bible and what peter actually said:

And this will be neo-cons Bible and as you see it:

 

why you need to compare?
kaffer just tell you that in the past there are blood between jews and christians.
you simply can say,
"no its not happen anymore".
or
"but thats just in the past"
or
"ok they made a mistake, but they grow adult now"

you just want an escape goat, throw the ball to the muslim, thats why

 

If you go back and read all my posts in this thread you will understand why I came to that post. The thread started of asking why christians and jews are sticking together. I replied by saying " may be it is because of the peaceful nature of the two". I mean't today. & Kafer mean't today in his initial thread starter. then it was kafer who took me to the comparisons of stone age and took me to those replies.

 

You are the one who brought the subject of the "peaceful nature" of these religions, which has nothing to do with this topic.

My thread was purely theological. It is about what Christianity means to Jews.

My initial thread started as:

To most Jews, Jesus was nothing but an impostor

and

Why does Christianity keep associating itself with Judaism when most Jews utterly reject Jesus?

In the above I meant Christians think that Christianity is continuity of Judaism. Whereas Jews think that this is absolutely not the case.

 

My guess is that no explanation would satisfy your questions as usual. They are not questions of sincerety but of hate.

The Jews are God's chosen people seen throughout the Bible and the Torah and the other books which are the old testament of the Bible.

If those books all point to Jesus and when Jesus came as a Jew, born as a Jew, and He was rejected by the religious leaders (not all Jews) He was sent to the Jew first. Jesus reached out to non-Jews and as a Jew of that time was not something they would do. Jesus' message then went to the gentile (non-Jew) through Paul and other apostles and deciples.

We Christians are those gentiles that received Jesus Christ's message and accepted it. There are also many Jews who accepted Christ also.

So, my point is that the Jew and Christian share in many things. Many orthodox Jew may not agree because they do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah, but as a Christian that does not make me hate or reject a Jew, that is not my job...

Now if you meant America and Israel, (since many muslims that visit this board seem to think that America is Christian and all Israel Jew) than that would have another answer....

 

Does this mean that if OBL decides to convert to Judaism and become a Jew then he will be a one of God's chosen people? Will you kiss his ass then?