To most Jews, Jesus was nothing but an impostor. Simply irrelevant!

Unfortunately, i'll have to agree. Not just regarding US, but all across the world.

 

Now you are just ranting and ignoring historical fact as testified by Josephus and other historians of the day, not to mention ignoring the clear laws and principles in the bible governing Christian living.

 

WTHAre you referring to Jewish people as dogs? Is this what you actually think? BTW, I would never refer to an arab as a "dirty arab" either, unless perhaps he was a member of al-qaeda, hamas or the taliban. In addition, who I will have respect for has nothing to do with money and I cannot believe that I am unique in that feeling. Your statements are making me wonder gworld, do you want people to hate the jews?

 

Where are you located? I am 48 years old and I still remember the signs from my childhood when traveling through USA that they had in front of Motels and Restaurants:

"Niggers, Jews and Dogs are not allowed"

Christian right considered Jews as Anti-Christ until awhile back. If you don't know history then it is better you learn it before start blaming others for being anti-semitics. My family always had Jewish friends and we still have and it is not because we got paid by state of Israel to like them.

What part of Bible are you referring to, the old testament?

 

I am in Arizona. I have never seen a sign like that, but I do not doubt they existed. That is good that your family had some Jewish friends and you were not paid to like them. But I never suggested they were, it is you who suggested that money would determine who we like or dislike when you said,
"If the dogs can become the chosen people then with right amount of money, the dirty Arabs can become the chosen people too."

Honestly, I just asked the question because I really didn't know if you were anti-semitic or not. I was just trying to determine where your coming from that's all.

 

No, in case you weren't aware Christ and Christian Laws are in the 'New Testament'!
Laws such as John 13:34,35:

or Matthew 5:32:

or Matthew 5:44:

or Acts 15:20:

Shall I go on?

 

This is typical Christian myopia and absolute rubbish.
Judaism in its common form is far more stringent than all but the most regressive sects of Christianity.
Here are things which Christians ignore from the "Old Testament."

*Strict dietary laws (kashruth) which also demand a knowledge of specific ritual blessings for each type of food.
*A much stricter concept of Sabath, which forbids routine acts such as driving and activating a lightbulb
*Ritual clothing requirements, including the wearing of fringes and headgear (tallis and yamulke) on a regular basis, or at least while praying, and also a daily requirement to adorn the "tefillin" around the head and wrist.
* Three required daily prayer sessions, consisting of a specific menu of Hebrew prayers. These are quite long and make similar Christian offerings seem like quick notes. Catholics will say "Ave Marias" or whatever over and over, but observant Jews are required to recite the Amidah, a series of eighteen extended blessings, EVERY DAY.
*You may have noticed that this requires at least a working knowledge of an ancient language using alien characters. Every observant Jew and their children learn this language as part of the religion. Christianity's only parallel is the Catholic Mass...and Latin is much easier to follow than Hebrew.
*Popular Christianity conveniently ignores many aspects of the Law, particularly those relating to temple procedure and daily life, sexuality and ritual.

There is far more, but I don't understand how anyone could claim that Christianity is more demanding than Judaism.
Protestant sects say that only unthinking belief is necessary to be saved.
Catholicism holds that only confession and absolution is required.
Judaism dictates a daily regimen must be maintained for righteousness...and "salvation" is not offered at any price.

I don't support either monotheopoly...but this sort of distortion was worth a quick rundown.

 

That is very true, another example of this is conversion. If you want to be a Christian all you have to do is say that you accept jesus as your savior and invite him into your life. However, if you want to convert to judaism, you will be welcomed but you are required to study all judaism before they will allow you to convert and it is not so easy.

 

The reason that most of those things are ignored by most Christians is that the Mosaic Law was fulfilled by Christ and therefore is not beholden upon Christians.
My original comment is probably wrong if you are taking into account all of the Jewish Laws and traditions, most of which Jesus condemned, e.g. Matthew 23:23,24:

True Christianity does not have the traditions of men as its laws, but rather the Law of Jesus Christ and of God - laws such as at Matthew 28:19,20:

Which is what Jesus did, taught his followers to do but is little in evidence amongst so-called christians today.

Many of the 'Old Testament' laws would be applicable to Christians today, but would be encompassed in the Law of Christ, for example the 'Old Testament' laws require a man not to covet his neighbours house, goods, or wife whereas the Christian is admonished to 'love his neighbour' - if you love your neighbour you will not do any of those things so the individual laws are not required.

So yes Jews have many more individual laws and traditions to adhere to than do Christians but Christians have a much weightier responsibility and accountability.

 

When they can convince a bunch of trailer park red necks to call the Jews the chosen people while until couple of years ago these people though of Jews as equals to dogs, you can be sure that they can also convince these "Republicans" to think of Arabs as their new best friend.

 

I love to watch gworld shine when he goes on a rampage about Jews and Christians. Never a bad word about islam though.

Actually, in islam, Jesus is just another prophet. muslims like to claim they believe in Jesus too, but the reality of it is, they do not believe he died on the cross nor do they believe he was sent to forgive our sins. mohammad had to knock Jesus down a few levels, otherwise he wouldn't look like a real prophet.

 

Hurray, the queen of cheer leaders is back and as usual nothing to say, except trying to make himself look important in front of his cheer leading squad and stupid for everyone else. Please continue, I love having my own personal clown. Still laughing at you.

 

Incorrect. I said, but you are not man enough to address it. I can't imagine why?

 

LOL.

Queen of cheer leader squad, the famous sissy who is not ready to serve his country while claiming that it is under attack is talking about being a man. Tanks for you clowning, I needed the laugh, please continue, Still laughing at you big sissy.

 

as i expected, this thread will move to islam.
yes islam believe in jesus as a prophet, the same they they believe in mohammad as a prophet too.
in islam, jesus not died in crucifixion, because god love him so much so he take him to heaven, and replace him with judas, so actually in islam judas that being crucifixion (any one can correct me?)
in islam, we believe that jesus will return later before armageddon, where he actually save us from evil.
so, where in islam that muslims don't have respect about jesus?

 

What I find strange though is that Christians make all kind of wild interpretations of the Old Testament, often contradictory to the Jewish belief system.

Why do Christians keep interpreting the Hebrew bible in their own way when it’s not theirs in the first place?

Just imagine for example the New Testament is added to the final testament (the Quran). What would Christians think if they hear Muslim scholars interpreting the NT in their own way that is against to the common accepted view of Christianity?

 

But Christians would not say that the 'Hebrew Bible', (Old Testament), as you call it, is not theirs in the first place.
The whole bible is God's Word to mankind, the 'Hebrew Bible' specifically addresses mankinds origins and God's dealings with us from the beginning through His specific dealings with the Jews - it isn't an exclusively Jewish book by right!
The 'Hebrew Bible' prophecied regarding the coming Messiah and the prophecy of Daniel records when and how, that is why the Jews were looking for the Messiah when Jesus arrived.
Jesus referred to and confirmed much of the content of the 'Hebrew Bible', such as the creation of Adam & Eve and the flood of Noah's day - it is not 2 books, it is 1 complete whole.
The 'Non-Hebrew Bible' (New Testament) specifically addresses God's transition from being 'the God of the Jews' to being available to all men equally - the unfaithfulness of the Jews being the catalyst for that transition.
That is why it is 'Good News', it is God's Word for everyone to receive salvation.

 

Probably the peaceful nature of these religions, when you compare all the religions, keep them together.

 

The Jews were expecting the Messiah to release them from the Roman occupation of the day and bring blessings specifically to the Jews - of course Gods express purpose, as told to Abraham was to bring blessings to everyone on earth.

This was confirmed to Isaac at Genesis 26:4,5:

These prophecies would never be fullfilled if the only nation to be blessed by God was the Jews!

As for Jesus not fullfilling the words of the prophets that simply is not true, the trouble is the Jews were expecting a 'physical' fullfillment, whereas Jesus provided a 'spiritual' fullfillment, that is why Paul spoke of the Jews as having a veil over their heads which could not be removed without acceptance of Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

 

You must be kidding! Right?

Do you know anything at all of the Jud.-Christian bloody history?

Have you for instance read the Book of Numbers in the OT?


I’m now ready to hear your apologetic views on their committed crimes against humanity.