To automate or not

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by rickwin, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. #1
    Ok, I've been reading a ton about link building on this forum and have a pretty good idea for my strategy moving forward. What I'm trying to decide now is whether I'm going to fork over the money for some automation software or really try and do all this manually.

    Based on everything I've read, the real key is quality content. I've generated content for websites for 15 years, I'm pretty confident I can handle that part. But writing good articles and then human spinning them into more good, readable articles would take some time. That's where the idea of some automation in the submitting, bookmarking, and pinging is attractive. I'm not talking about spamming, I can't write that fast anyway. But my understanding is a program like SENuke can be scheduled to "drip" feed my content. So, what would be the harm of me concentrating on writing strong content and then using automation software to be "the other me" to submit it (at the same pace I could do it myself)?

    I appreciate everyone's thoughts!
     
    rickwin, Aug 25, 2011 IP
  2. kuntal

    kuntal Peon

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    #2
    genuin content is the key, but tolls will help you spreading it up...
     
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    AK_47 Peon

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    #3
    Don't automate, 3 quality links are worth more than 30 shitty ones.
     
    AK_47, Aug 26, 2011 IP
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    #4
    senuke??? Jeez. Like living dangerously then? Why not use a reputable product from a reputable company like Article Samurai from the guys who did 'market samurai'???
     
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  5. Bauger

    Bauger Active Member

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    #5
    I don't think automated linking should be done in my opinion. You can find relevant site with great pr to get backlinks from. Plus it goes a lot further than having 50 crapping links Personally I would just outsource myself because its faster more efficient and lots do awesome work at link building
     
    Bauger, Aug 26, 2011 IP
  6. patrick0001

    patrick0001 Member

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    #6
    When a webmaster is dealing with more than 100 accounts per month, they still depend on some tool to finish those task. Manual submission is very time consuming.

    In this situation, I would semi auto tool.
     
    patrick0001, Aug 26, 2011 IP
  7. rickwin

    rickwin Peon

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    Thanks for all the feedback. I probably should have mentioned, I'm specifically thinking about article marketing and social bookmarking at this point as a way to keep a steady stream of links coming in. Finding, quality, relevant sites that will link to my site will always be an ongoing task too. I've recently launched a new site with 10 good pr3-pr7 links (and I'm PR2 at last update now) that I created manually.
     
    rickwin, Aug 26, 2011 IP
  8. SEOMagicMan

    SEOMagicMan Greenhorn

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    #8
    Just like Patrick said, I personally own about 150 websites. If I were to do nothing but get links to those sites all day, I would not have time to do anything else. It all depends on what type a business you have and the number of sites you own.

    Best of luck,
    Justin
     
    SEOMagicMan, Aug 27, 2011 IP
  9. sagart8379

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    #9
    I think little bit of automation would definitely help - it will take off the overheads from you so that you can concentrate more on what you do best. However, if you are spending lot of $$ on it, then I would suggest you should really look at the ROI you would be getting out of this... I have automated showing-of-ads on my site with little coding and database and it has helped me a lot.
     
    sagart8379, Aug 29, 2011 IP
  10. dummy2010

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    #10
    nothing wrong with automating article and directory submission, especially if you do it slowly over a long period together with finding relevant sites willing to link to yours then you on your way to hit page 1 :)
     
    dummy2010, Aug 29, 2011 IP
  11. thexyz

    thexyz Notable Member

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    #11
    Especially with the new panda update update, quality over quantity.
     
    thexyz, Aug 29, 2011 IP
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    DovieKnoll Active Member

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    #12
    Do not automate on your money sites.
     
    DovieKnoll, Aug 29, 2011 IP
  13. karlo.dude

    karlo.dude Greenhorn

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    #13
    Not advisable for me. It's still better if you worked hard for it.
     
    karlo.dude, Aug 30, 2011 IP
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    #14
    Well actually, auto helps a lot, it saves time. However, doing auto tools must be balanced with original contents.
     
    Juliajanet, Aug 31, 2011 IP
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    chienb Member

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    #15
    If you are focusing on unique content which does not read like crap, then really no one has anything to worry about. It is the people who recycle content that is not unique and offers no value to their users, that the search engines are trying to crack down on.

    Focus on unique high quality content, use SEnuke as a distribution tool for all your unique content, and none of us will ever have anything to worry about.
     
    chienb, Sep 9, 2011 IP
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    #16
    Automating link building is quite risky for your money sites.
     
    powermind, Sep 10, 2011 IP
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    #17
    Anything auto = bad news in my opinion. Better to outsource if you can afford it to help link building efforts. Manual quality content is key to gaining some high rankings...I think the majority of people will agree to that. It's slow and it's cumbersome, but if done right will get you the results you're looking for.
     
    jefeyeo, Sep 10, 2011 IP
  18. jimbo2779

    jimbo2779 Active Member

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    #18
    I cannot believe how many people are in the dark about link building, using a tool like SENuke is automation and results in amazing results for hundreds or people every month, people automate directory submissions with no ill effect, bookmarking demon is essentially spamming bookmarks to peoples money sites and they do not get penalised.

    I have used auto tools to get many many money sites onto the first page with very little effort, if you think it cannot be done you just have not found the right tools yet. If you think outsourcers are not using automation tools you are living in the dark quite frankly.

    Yes quality links are better than quantity but what if you can get a high quantity of good quality backlinks automated? Trust me there are plenty of tools out there that can automate and generate a good mix of link types. When link building you need a realistic profile that is heavy with quality links not a link profile of only quality links as this looks unrealistic in the eyes of search engines.
     
    jimbo2779, Sep 12, 2011 IP
  19. unknownpray

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    Automated tools are great considering your requirements, much better than manual work and you get a much better amount of work done in the same amount of time. But what I am not sure is that if you build so much links won't the SE get suspicious and ban you or something? I mean because of this I still stick to manual submissions, it may be slow but at least I don't have to worry about anything.
     
    unknownpray, Sep 14, 2011 IP
  20. rickwin

    rickwin Peon

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    Thanks for all the info everyone, I've got my plan in place :)
     
    rickwin, Sep 22, 2011 IP