<title></title> is NOT a meta tag or meta element!

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  1. #1
    <rant>

    Ok, I just wanna make this clear because I'm so tired of it. The <title></title> html tags are NOT a meta tag or meta element. This is an element of the <head></head> section. Now, I know this doesn't really matter to some people, but it gets rather annoying when people keep referring to the title tags as being a meta tag or a meta element, because its not! Below are some resource links if you wish to "concede" my rant here, make sure you read before you reply.

    Can we stop the mis-information train from leaving the station or what?

    </rant>


    http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.4.2
    http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_meta.asp
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_element
    http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/head/meta.html
     
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  2. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    And not to be confused with the Title Attribute which is:

    <a href="http://www.domain.com/cool-pic.jpg" title="My Cool Pic">
     
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  3. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #3
    As usual sweetfunny is always on the money. :)
     
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    #4
    Great Tip. I didn't even know this until now and I was giving people the wrong information.

    Thanks a lot
     
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  5. JakeCohen

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    #5
    This is obvious information. Although many should know it, hopefully this will stop new threads about those who don't. Thank you, although this post probably wasn't necessary.
     
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  6. marshalseo

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    #6
    You are absolutely right, i agree with your point. Many of SEOs, describe title tag as meta element. But it is not.
     
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  7. dylanphelan

    dylanphelan Active Member

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    #7
    Yeah for sure that is correct, but for all practical purposes does the distinction really matter...
     
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  8. Australianfranchises

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    #8
    Title in between anchor called Attribute of Anchor tag.

     
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    #9
    Nice Info....
    I don't know that, since I start to study HTML
     
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  10. walkere

    walkere Active Member

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    #10
    <nitpick>
    It would be more accurate to say that the <title></title> tags create an element - title - which is itself a child element of the head element. There are no 'sections' in xHTML terminology.
    </nitpick>

    - Walkere
     
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    usasportstraining Notable Member

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    #11
    The page title is VERY important to SEO. The attribute title is also important (and is becoming more important as Google crawls more and more types of content).
     
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  12. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #12
    Correct, I should of used the correct terminology when referring to it. +REP for the correction.
     
    astup1didiot, Feb 22, 2008 IP
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    #13
    Wow. I never heard about this. Cool!!!
     
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    happymondays Well-Known Member

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    #14
    Now I'll sleep better tonight :)
     
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  15. enous

    enous Well-Known Member

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    #15
    good post,i'd study it
     
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    #16
    ya Title and Description are really very important
    and Dont forget h1, h2 , h3
     
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  17. Synchronium

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    #17
    It IS a meta element in the sense that it describes the page.

    Definition of Meta:

    A prefix meaning one level of description higher. If X is some concept then meta-X is data about, or processes operating on, X. For example, a metasyntax is syntax for specifying syntax, metalanguage is a language used to discuss language, meta-data is data about data, and meta-reasoning is reasoning about reasoning.

    So the title describes the document, it doesn't actually comprise the document itself. ==> Meta information.



    In the HTML sense, no it's not a meta tag.
     
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  18. walkere

    walkere Active Member

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    #18
    False. True. True.

    The title is very much meta-data in that it describes the content.

    However, in the same way that "In the HTML sense, no it's not a meta tag," it cannot be "in the HTML sense" a meta element.

    An "element" is a specific object in xHTML, and there are specific things that can be contained in "meta" elements. The "title" is an element unto itself - not a meta element.

    The OP's point holds firm that "element" is a term with a special meaning in the field of xHTML - so although it may sound ok in layman's terms to call the title a "meta element," it is not. To describe the title as a "meta element" is to use the term "element" improperly in the context of web design and xHTML.

    - Walkere
     
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  19. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    No. (see below)

    You should review the structure of an HTML document, pay special attention to the meta data section. Title tag is a element of the head element, just like meta data is an element of the head element, two seperate things. Anyone one who actually went to school to learn web development should know this, it's the self taught developers that tend to stray off the actual course.

    http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html
     
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  20. walkere

    walkere Active Member

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    #20
    I never went to school for web development... I take offense to that. :cool:

    Let us discern between the slackers/posers that never bothered to learn about web development, and those that actually taught themselves something.

    - Walkere
     
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