Can I just ask - I have created a gallery - where I can upload pics & it makes thumbnails from the original in a small size But it takes ages to load the thumbnails because they are based on the original larger graphic - what can I do to fix that ??? plus How do I allow other people to upload their own photos & not get overcome by the size of those photos. I have used ASP to list the grahics in each folder & that works fine but wonder if I shouldnt be just using an online free utility like something from bravenet ??