Three british men found guilty of airline bomb plot. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242238.stm don't miss the 5-page flash presentation at the buttom and the three links in the middle of the page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8242479.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8193501.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8233954.stm Check out the admirable holy work of Asif Muhammad Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif, two more british citizens, in May 2003 in Israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike's_Place_suicide_bombing I am thinking loudly now. Please share your opinions on the following points and any other points which are related with this case What is the UK doing wrong, or what has it done wrong to deserve this? Can it be "fixed" - namely, that such cases like the 2005 bombings and men like those peaceful 3 men will never occur again, or is the UK doomed to suffer from DOMESTIC Muslim terror forever? 10% of the population of London is muslim. Is this the "thank you" the UK is getting for helping them relocate from their horrible poor and primitive countries? Is it the discrimination of these minority which led the to this inhuman plot? or is it the inherit peacefulness of Islam at its glory again? or maybe its the Zionists/"imperialism"/"colonialism" who is to blame? I must say that before I was active on this forum, it was impossible for me to comprehend who such people who grow and get educated in the west could actually exist. But after seeing posts which express the same primitive thinking patterns which I would expect to see only in Egypt Syria or Saudi Arabia coming from keyboard which are located in Europe and in the UK in particular, I am not too much surprised anymore. In your opinion, is it possible that someday, the UK will find itself in a religious/cultural civil war? Of course, the religion of peace is known for its followers' great sense of humor. reminds me the "gas explosion" in Syria from two weeks ago or so.
These clown sounded like they had brain damage on the news earlier. Their message? "don't mess with the Muslims", yeah ok kid, have fun in prison. I wonder how long it will take the usual suspects on here to run to their defence.
WTF? British my ass. Sure they are born here but they lost their right to call themselves British when the turned traitor and started waving the religious flag. Think of it as Red quirrels and grey squirrels. You ladies and gents could well be the Red squirrels. Bring back the death penalty. Televise it. Hang them. Close the borders.
I see. How's Zürich? I lived in Aargau for 3 years until not so long ago. Besch schwiizer? are you swiss?
Simple - stop people going to high risk countries completely, and don't allow anyone in from them. Put pressure on normal Muslims to stop this crap. Don't give into the scumbags. But, Labour knows f*ck all about anything. They won't do it incase it offends.
And you can thank George Bush for this. If not for his administrations work, policies and new procedures things would have been different. You're welcome BTW!
Couldn't respectable Muslims do a sort of "supergrass project" like they did with the IRA in the late 70's that killed off those terrorists. Like, some new white robes, life time supply of Persil, some beard oil and an extra 20 virgins waiting in Valhalla or wherever they go when they blow themselves up?
I think that its a pitty that nobody tried to answer my questions. I was really asking them in an attempt to get answers from people more educated on the UK Muslims subject than myself. I find this topic to be very interesting and there isn't much possibilities to be very educated on it from here. The most fascinating question is: Does UK-Muslims believe that the motivation of these three guys (and couple of other muslim terrorists with UK citizenship) result from the discrimination of the UK authorities against them (=worse education, less work opportunities, etc')? or is it a result of the inherit violence of the Muslim religion? The statistics don't lie: too many cases already have accumulated to discard all of them and each and every one of them as "a bunch of lunatics" and say that religion/ethnicity whatever have nothing to do with it. I can recall at least 10 cases with muslim terrorists holding UK citizenship were involved. Two of them are in the opening post.
Sorry. It was such a big question and so many parts I mistook it for a thesis. I think there are three forms of Muslim terrorism. 1. Over land displacement, 1948 Palestine and all that. Many Arab nations after supporting the UK so much and making so many sacrifices felt betrayed by the homeland creation, after WWII. 2. Fanatical terrorism that is really a new thing. This would be your UK mosques etc. It would have roots in one and two. Like most terrorism they tend to be vulnerable men who are see things in black and white. The terrorism is the tip of the iceberg and many UK Muslims seem to feel rage, isolation and bitterness towards their UK sponsors. Possibly due to the separation of India and Pakistan but more likely due to firm home links and the way many ethnic communities deliberatley isolate themselves from the comuities they are in. In most cases the UK has accepted ethnic migrants easier than the ethnics have accepted their new country. 3. Chess. Where the CIA etc arms a population for whatever reason normally GOD Gold Oil Drugs. Often as an excuse to justify some other response that will surface in many years. Some would say 9/11 was such an event Its more complicated than you think.