Thousands of keywords issue

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    Thousands of keywords issue
    I have about 250 000 keywords on word hotel and I want to by cheap traffic from 0.01 USD from adwords
    How do I do that without getting banned from adwords?
    I want to direct this traffic to my webpage where I show affiliate link to hotelclub.com and in left frame I show adsense
    Is there a way out? Any ideas?
     
    eugene2006, Sep 17, 2007 IP
  2. johnny b

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    You would need to have a relevant ad and landing page for each keyword so its very unlikely you could just throw all these keywords into an adgroup and get 0.01 clicks. Impossible in fact.

    Organise your keyword into relevant groups, for example

    hotel in prague
    cheap hotel in prague
    best hotel in prague

    and then your ad can be

    Cheapest Prague Hotels
    Find a hotel in Prague
    that you can afford
    www yourwebsite com

    and then your landing page for these keywords should have the phrases

    hotel in prague
    cheap hotel in prague
    best hotel in prague

    spread throughout your page several times.

    If you can achieve this level of relevancy then theres a good chance you will see very cheap clicks, maybe not 0.01 at first, but with a high CTR you will get there eventually.

    Cheers,

    John
     
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    The problem with having 250,000 keywords is that unless you have an enormous budget, 240,000 of them will get no traffic at all. And only a handful will get enough traffic for you to be able to optimise them effectively.

    If I were in your position, I'd start on one area, learn what does and doesn't work, then look at rolling it out into different areas over time, only using terms that people actually search for, and that you are confident that you can make a profit on.
     
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    well sure enough only small fraction of these keywords would lead to traffic but i have to find out them first by posting all of these words into adwords ads... but the problem is adwords bans for this thing
    i could use 1 campaign 25 ads in it so i get 50 000 words covered, is it legal?
    what if i create 5 campaigns 5 accounts is it legal or not and what to do?

    if i " Organise your keyword into relevant groups, for example" still adwords may ban me
    and also it is a tremendious and awful job to sort all things out, since hotelclub provides thousands of hotels world wide in any city big enough :) so this is not an option i think http://www.hotelclub.net/

    my main concern is nothing but a Goolge Adwords ban and how does it ban
    I just want to now where is that breaking ban point when Goolge Adwords starts to think i did a TOS violation
     
    eugene2006, Sep 17, 2007 IP
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    Google won't ban you for bidding on a lot of keywords. They may deactivate them & require high minimum bids but they won't ban you from AdWords just because of large keyword set.
     
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    read all of the responses very closely people in the adwords forum here at DP really know their stuff they just gave you some pearls learn as much as you can from them!
     
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    Apologies - misunderstood your concerns.

    As GFC says, they won't ban you for having a lot of keywords, but you should give serious thought to how to structure your campaign.

    Too many keywords without a huge budget will make it virtually impossible to optimise.

    And if you have got a huge budget, you can lose a lot of money while you work out what works and what doesn't...
     
    CustardMite, Sep 17, 2007 IP
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    250,000 keywords?

    I don't mean to sound harsh but unless you are a Coca Cola and going for brand recognition then there is absolutely no point on bidding on so many keywords man.

    You will run into all sorts of problems down the line.

    It's best to start out small and then work our way up once you know what converts... reverse engineering and starting with all those keywords will see you spend lots of money and wondering where you are failing... it'll be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

    Cheers

    Stewart
     
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    The best thing you can do is focus on a popular local destination you know and grow it from there. See if it works first.
     
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    What's the purpose of wanting to pay for 250,000 keywords?

    That means 2,500$ if they all get clicked in 1 day.
    I assume that you want to practice Google Adsense arbitrage.

    But you won't get there with 1 cent a click. Google will only
    allow this to advertisers that have good Adwords account
    history, a good overall quality score. And what also counts is
    that you have enough relevant content on your pages, to prove
    to Google that you provide value to the visitor.

    Optimize your pages for the search-engines.

    Never use thousands of keywords in an adgroup or even a
    campaign. You have to keep your adgroups tightly targeted
    with at least 2 words in common.

    Better use between 5 to 25 keywords per adgroup(15 to 75 "" []).
    This will result in a higher CTR. But this will not guarantee that
    you will pay only 1 cent a click.

    All the best,
     
    RudyDhondt, Sep 18, 2007 IP
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    And FYI - new accounts typically won't allow for 250K keywords. You'll exceed the account size.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Sep 18, 2007 IP