I don't think it makes any difference for the dead guy, that is one of the few positive things about being dead that you don't need to think about these things any more. Unfortunately when you die under such circumstances, it is always used by different political groups. On one side we have his mother who wants to put stop to killing and war and on the other side we have the government and Mr. Bush that say that they have to continue with war and killing because they don't want his death to be useless. The question in the end is simple, should we stop the further death and war so more people like him don't get killed or should we use his death as the reason to continue the war and for more killing and death on both sides?
What? Now what she is saying, or what she was saying 6 months ago, or a year ago, or 6 months from now?
You do understand that is the US pulled out of Iraq right now more people will die than if we stay...right?
So just to simplify this for all the viewers, you think it is ok to use the death of a soldier for political gain?
It doesn't matter what my opinion about this subject is, the reality is that both side use it. Everything is politics in the end, even people who want that every one should be quite about his death, are serving the political agenda of those who like to see the war continue and try hard people don't see the real human cost and suffering.
In my ongoing debates with gworld, that seems to be what he hopes for the most. He seems to have no regard that terrorists are the ones killing Iraqis daily and that we are there to help them. One might get the impression that gworld supports the terrorists killing Iraqis by calling for the US to pull out and stop efforts to protect and help them. Why anyone would want terrorists in Iraq to win is beyond me, but it exemplifies a sad discourse towards a people who do not deserve killing by terrorists.
I dont care about the "sides". Im an independent and I answer only for myself. So for the record, you arent going to answer this question. Is it ok to use the death of a soldier for political gain? My answer is no and it takes me only the amount of time to type this to come to that conclusion. You on the other hand dance around in your posts suggesting that you are refusing to say no and that leaves us to assume one thing. Do you care to prove otherwise?
More relevant and important question is who has the right to decide over his memory and how it is going to be used, you that have no relationship with him and didn't know him or his mother that has given birth to him, raised him and still mourns his death?
Ok, Im glad we have it established that you refuse to answer a simple question and we can now assume that you feel it is ok to use the death of a soldier to further a political agenda.
Anyone see the video clip of Cindy last night on the O'reilly factor. She called the bush out as a terrorist but went one to say stuff about how the United States is wrong in supporting Israel and how the United States is a hypocrite for not allowing Lebanon to occupy Syria. What those issues have to do with her sons death I have no idea, Bush has met with her once and it would be crazy for him to do it again. Cindy is now a pawn in the far lefts game and she loves every minute of it. Blogging on Michael Moore's website, come on now, I'd give her much more respect if she protested in a responsibly way. I'm tired of people like her, Michael Moore and the moveon campaign exploiting everything they can find for political gain and abusing there freedom of speech which they so happen to have because of our great troops. Are the democrats (and others) terrorist for not securing our borders, where are the mom's at protesting this issue when there son was killed by someone who had entered this country illegally?
Great post. She also says that "America is not worth dying for" and it was discovered today that she is trying to use the name of a mom organization to build on the brand and now the org is pissed. Im not sure what org it was so I'll have to dig a bit. I'll get back on that one.
She's a publicity WHORE! She will stop pissing on her son's grave when the camera's fade away..... Makes me sick, her son and his brothers in arms will always be hero's and she cannot take that away...
Not saying you are wrong, but she's attacked the media saying they made her look like a clown, since many aired how's she's flipped/flopped on her position many many times. Her children now call her names, and her husband has filed for divorce. I kinda feel sad for her. Since she radically changed her position, I suspect she is in the back pocket of someone. Hope the money was worth it.
Curious. How can you say "I kinda feel sad for her" and "Hope the money was worth it" in the same paragraph? Kinda strange no?
Ok so person accepts the position of "pawn" for left wing political groups. Insults America and everything it stands for, probably gets funding and support in many other ways and you feel sorry for her? You reap what you sow.
Yes. Also, when people are emotionally charged, or taken advantage of and make decisions that has long term negative fallout, I feel sorry for them. So...? tom