Those clickbank gurus

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by natethegreat7037, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. #1
    I'm sure we've all seen it when it comes to affiliate marketing.. The super hyped sales pages..showing how they've made hundreds of thousands a month.

    But I'm curious, do you guys really believe them? Or more so...what could they possibliy be doing do garner that kind of income? It's always something that's been in the back of my mind..

    Thoughts?
     
    natethegreat7037, Feb 22, 2011 IP
  2. Cleberl1

    Cleberl1 Peon

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    Most of these gurus making $2k per day are suckers trying to sell their disonest ebooks saying"How I'm earning a fortune online"...

    But I now some people earning serious cash with clickbank.
     
    Cleberl1, Feb 22, 2011 IP
  3. natethegreat7037

    natethegreat7037 Member

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    Exactly. I acctually found one named 'commission crusher' and the guy was boasting making $200K a month! It was unreal..is this what being extremely successful in clickbank comes down to?
     
    natethegreat7037, Feb 22, 2011 IP
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    xInd Notable Member

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    Yes in fact it can, however those who are not on top of the latest trends and the respective guru's, groups or latest developments from whomever, you don't see them until there are thousands of other people selling them, often leading one to the conclusion that it's watered down bogus, or that all these different people are claiming the same things individually... when the reason why a particular product would be so successful, is because it was unique and useful, a great value to somebody, then it was picked up by the network of affiliates and some percentage of the millions of people on there who's sole purpose is to sell everyone else's stuff and promote it, put up pages about it that look exactly the same, because they use a carbon copy like system to keep things systematic and organized to handle the volume of affiliates. A product creator can't customize pages for 10,000 different people or more, nor does s/he want them redesigning their work, so you end up seeing the same sales page every time, because in fact every affiliate is just basically a portal. A sales rep, an access point. It's all the same, except for that extra meta data to handle the splitting of the money for those who deserve it from contributing to the work (sending you there).

    Think about it... You must know somebody who's making some good money with affiliate marketing, no? Where is that money coming from? Clickbank sends them a check. Where does Clickbank get it from? A product creator becomes a clickbank vendor and provides stock for clickbank affiliates to sell. The product creators are the ones making the big bucks. If affiliate marketers make a living, they do so by supporting the product creators making more, (per product at least) a nice quid pro quo especially when the affiliates are allowed to sell everyone's products and aren't restricted that way... A product creator / vendor can only create so much really, there are only 24 hours in the day and so many people doing the work etc..
     
    xInd, Feb 22, 2011 IP
  5. natethegreat7037

    natethegreat7037 Member

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    Now when you put it like that.. it does make a ton of sense really. Thanks for the very detailed post
     
    natethegreat7037, Feb 22, 2011 IP
  6. GenoPhelps

    GenoPhelps Greenhorn

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    One guy in particular that makes lots of money using clickbank products is Mark Ling.

    Research him, he has some good material
     
    GenoPhelps, Feb 25, 2011 IP
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    Commission Crusher is just hype and Steve Iser is lier :/
     
    bekyarov, Mar 29, 2011 IP
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    I think the general idea is make good money promoting other peoples products in a niche, once you have the audience in that niche, create your own product and make mega bucks, then create an ebook about your success and make even more money :)
     
    PositiveVibe, Apr 1, 2011 IP
  9. onedumbaussie

    onedumbaussie Active Member

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    Google "Jason Fladlien" Hope thats spelled right.

    6 figures a month all from a MEGA list that he has built overtime.
    YES it can be done, Just not by tommorrow.

    Most of the big earners tell the other big earners when they are going to release a product so they have 2 weeks or more to get the strategy in place.

    The AVERAGE affiliate looks for over 100 gravity and then promotes into massive competition. The INSIDER gets advanced notice as is probably ranked at 1-3 for the product name before its even launched. Thus MR average gets 3% of clicks and the super affiliate with advanced knowledge and techniques takes the rest.
     
    onedumbaussie, Apr 7, 2011 IP
  10. jakea1011

    jakea1011 Greenhorn

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    With hard work and time, you can make this much cash.
     
    jakea1011, Apr 7, 2011 IP
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    web_18designer Peon

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    Most sales pages are basically just hype, some of them simply "feed" on fellow newbie internet marketers.

    I have been in internet marketing for quiet some time now, and probably seen most of the products that are launched in the niche. As a rule of thumb, all of them are over hyped because the truth is that thers no "easy" way to make money online. While there are many procedures to follow for success, there are no easy "tricks" that one can make and become rich overnight.

    Like everything in this world, it all come with hard work, dedication and persistence. nothing is really difficult once you know how and are ready to work for it.

    Lets say I found a nice trick to make me rich overnight, if so, by revealing/selling my trick would mean that everyone will use it and it will not work anymore - so i should keep it tight and not reveal it for any money.

    Just think about it, its all about balance, if making money doing ABC is easy, everyone will do it and due to the added competition it will not be easy anymore. So, everything find its balanced and only those that work and learn new things will manage to make money.


    Are their any Products that deliver? yes there are, but are generally the same general stuff being reworded and relaunched as the next big thing - over and over agian.
     
    web_18designer, Apr 8, 2011 IP
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    I got so fed up of those Clickbank sales page with the pictures of how much money they are making. Then when you buy the guide it is nothing but fluff and more affiliate links or products that you "need" to buy to succeed.
     
    blogaboutnothin, Apr 8, 2011 IP
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    Some gurus are REALLY making even 6k USD per DAY in sales
     
    laurik, Apr 9, 2011 IP
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    I'm not here to defend any particular marketer or any particular
    marketing tactic. But something people should remember is that
    when you buy something through ClickBank, you're protected by
    their ultra liberal (almost laughably liberal) refund policy.

    That being said, it might be noteworthy to point out that some
    (not all) of the marketers who sell "how to" products of the type
    being discussed in this thread really are providing good
    information -- but it's information that most of us might consider
    to be "common knowledge" or "obvious." But that's because we
    have been around a while. We presumably already have our
    own money making online business.

    Think about it this way... the reason you or I or anyone else
    might even consider buying one of these "how to" type
    products is because we don't really have a business. We're just
    sitting around, wondering how to make money online. An e-mail
    arrives in our inbox suggesting we check out a particular site,
    and there we are, wondering if the screen shots are real.

    None of this happens if you're working 8 to 12 hours (or more)
    per day managing your small but growing online business. You'd
    dismiss these offers as a distraction because you're already
    busy implementing a business model and testing and tracking
    new ways to derive more money from your existing business.

    It's precisely those who HAVE NO BUSINESS, and who HAVE
    NOTHING TO DO ALL DAY, and who are actively SEEKING a
    way to make money online to which these offers are ideally
    suited (and targeted). So once we understand who the "real"
    audience is, it become more apparent why you and I laugh
    and wonder who buys this stuff.
     
    NathanFalkner, Apr 10, 2011 IP
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    dess71 Well-Known Member

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    What amazes me is that when a make money online product is launched, the product owner calls other product launchers "those gurus" And almost insults them while he himself was promoting their product. I happen to see only one man calling himself a guru ... Just forgot his name( he has a how to do business in clickbank product)
    But all in all there is a lot of dishonest people telling a lot of lies. They tell you their system is NEVER before seen while that system was arround for many years ..... lots of lies. There can also be some Good ones but not easy to identify.
     
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    If they tell you you can make thousand in days or weeks, it is a scam. If they tell you it is posible, but imposible to do without there plan, it is a scam. if they tell you they can teach you and save you lots of time, and can prove it with demos. They may be telling the truth. There are a lot of bad gurus out htere, a few good ones, and one or two great ones. 95% are scams, or bad products, I am sad to say..... :(

    You see not only to you need to know how to do it yourself to be a guru. You must be good a teaching it. A unique combination.
     
    rickmci, Apr 11, 2011 IP
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    Nowdays Clickbank launches is full of hype & they are using same strategies of selling $37 low front end product and upsell you with the few hundreds one time offer.

    CY
     
    donaldong, Apr 12, 2011 IP
  18. GrandRoyal

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    I always do not believe them because i have seen it all for 2 years and i can judge what is hype or not.
     
    GrandRoyal, Apr 13, 2011 IP