This proves the power of OFF PAGE optimization (link Building)

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by vstar, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #21
    Proof of what? That Google factors backlinks in it's algo? Welcome to 1997 when they had backrub running out of their garage.
     
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  2. kanwarjot

    kanwarjot Notable Member

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    #22
    I agree with sweetfunny. This method has lost much of its effectiveness as now Google know that this was misused. So now you just can't do it but yea backlinks are still required for better serps
     
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  3. vstar

    vstar Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Does this count... Owning the #3 position for a 2 word keyphrase that gets an average of 550,000 searches per month with 7,850,000 competing web pages. ;)

    I'd love to show you it but you know that ain't gonna happen :p

    Do your home work and you'll discover the real reason why it's no longer ranking.

    Here's what a spokesperson for Google has to say...

    "People have asked about how we feel about Googlebombs, and we have talked about them in the past. Because these pranks are normally for phrases that are well off the beaten path, they haven’t been a very high priority for us. But over time, we’ve seen more people assume that they are Google’s opinion, or that Google has hand-coded the results for these Googlebombed queries. That’s not true, and it seemed like it was worth trying to correct that misconception. So a few of us who work here got together and came up with an algorithm that minimizes the impact of many Googlebombs".

    No political message intended, it was just a good example that I was aware of.

    The double posting was an error on my part
     
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  4. saleelm03

    saleelm03 Well-Known Member

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    #24
    off page optimiztion is a very good seo. i think someone should explain it here in detail
     
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  5. Dodger

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    #25
    That was my feeling also. More to the point, it was as Jim4767 mentioned, there seemed to be more of a political overtone to the post(s) in question. His irritating embolding of the the two word phrase and this close to the election makes you raise an eyebrow or two.

    What he calls 'off-page optimization' is nothing more than the power of using strong 'anchor text'. If he is going to discuss the subject, at least refer to it by its proper name.

    While Jim's example of 'Click Here' will bring up Adobe demonstrates what anchor text can do, there is a lot more to it than that. The sheer volume of links and a couple of decades worth of tens of thousands of websites linking to it has a significant factor in that SERP (that all started back in the day of PageMaker, et al). Strong anchor text is good, but it needs authoritative links to tell Google just how good it is. Adobe has earned that 'click me' spot.

    And if anyone is wondering why I am not quoting or replying to that guy via this post, it is because these type of people are beyond reason. It is not worth my time to even comment back at them.
     
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  6. jvfconsulting

    jvfconsulting Active Member

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    #26
    I thought it was google themselves that linked "miserable failure" to George W. lol
     
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  7. sweetfunny

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    #27
    There was a motive for his post, but he completely missed the mark and was to lazy to come up with anything new or worthwhile.

    The motive:

    The affiliate sig link for a $150 a month blog post/spam link package from Linkvana.com was the political message. OP if you want to push affiliate stuff, rhetorical threads that are akin to "NewsFlash: The internet is important for browsing websites" will net a ROI worse than Cuil.com

    yvaN ehT nioJ
     
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  8. vstar

    vstar Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I don't live in the US, so Why the F**k would I give a Sh*t about your politics?

    the Last time I read this forum's terms of services it indicated that an affiliate link within my signature was perfectly acceptable... So what's your problem?

    P.S.
    I have had numerous PM's from forum members thanking me for referring them to the website in my signature because as one member put it... "I've been trying for 2 years to get my site ranked well and after only 3 weeks of using the service my site is now on the first page of Google for my targeted key words"

    P.P.S
    Have you children got nothing better to do than Fling Sh*t... Get a life Kids!
     
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  9. Dodger

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    #29
    Correction, it was not a political message. It was an economic message. You read my post, click on my link, I make money.

    One question dude, what does joining the navy have to do with that? :confused:

    Maybe because the next President may affect the World in ways that you do not understand. This is a flaw in your general logic, you look only on the surface and not what churns beneath it.

    Here is a quote of yours from the topic entitled Which is more important, Onpage SEO or Offpage SEO, which is where I think you got your title for this thread.

    While nobody will dispute the fact that a 'quality' link will actually get you somewhere, the fact that getting that link depends on having quality content completely eludes you. There is an actual symbiotic relationship between quality on-page content and the links that point to it.

    You incorrectly define the term 'off-page SEO'. You quantify it as massive link-building. You hide the facts of unique content and what it does in for you personally, and try to push your own agenda -- which is what sweetfunny already alerted people to.

    The problem is that when you go to sell something, you do not come off like a huckster. This time you injected something political into your OP which does not settle right with most Americans right now.

    If you want to sell an idea, you have to learn NOT to rub your potential audience the wrong way. You need to learn what they really want to hear. Your OP went into the 'voodoo land' of politics. And it was completely misleading, unsubstantiated, full of holes, and does not hold an ounce of water in a two-gallon bucket.
     
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  10. vstar

    vstar Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Nuff time wasted here

    Political agenda... Econmic Agenda...What the FU*K!

    That's OK... 3 more sign ups = 3 more very happy customers who will see some major upward movement in the SERP's and a huge ROI
     
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  11. Dodger

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    #31
    So you admit that this thread you started got you 3 referrals?

    Have to love the concept of capitalism, it does make you money. From a guy who does not live in the US, you sure do capitalize off of its benefits.

    I do question the 'happy customer' equation in your thinking. You probably do not even deal with the customer satisfaction on your side of the business. This makes you more of a spammer than a servicer. An affiliate that is only interested in one thing, money.
     
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  12. trosquin

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    #32
    First of All this is how old? And Google Bombing does not work anymore. Also I would think it is impossible for this sort of thing to happen now adays with google having evolved so much. If you do not have relavent content in your meta info or on your page...then i dont think a text link that is totally unrelated would have any impact! Way to copy Wikipedia!!!! Now give me something that is NOT outdated...Please!
     
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  13. Dodger

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    #33
    I am beginning to think that the Nays outweigh the Yeas on this topic. Democracy at its finest.

    I rated this thread 1 Star.
     
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  14. vstar

    vstar Well-Known Member

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    #34
    I'll help them every step of the way... Go ahead, try me, my support is second to none.

    And if you go through all of my posts you'll see that I'm here to help, the thank you PM"s I've recieved are a testament to that!

    Also, who are you to question what I have in my signature, I'm not doing anything against this forums TOS, In fact I'm pointing people to a very useful and rewarding service, do some research on the service and you'll see for yourself.
    If you took the time to read through this thread you would see that this has already been established

    Again, if you read through this thread you would see how WRONG you are!

    Google "click here" and you'll find the #1 result is Adobe's PR10 page. You will not find "click here" even once on that page. But they score #1 because of all the "click here" hyperlinks on other webpages pointing to Adobe.
     
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  15. Dodger

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    #35
    Give it a rest dude.

    A guy states how old this is, you answer 'you would see that it is well established'

    A guy states that if you do not have relevant content to back up the link, you answer 'look at the "click here" #1 result'.

    A guy states that you have a screw loose, you answer 'Go ahead, try me. My support is second to none'

    Why are you still pushing this?
     
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  16. vstar

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    #36
    I'm not Gonna sit back while you Fling Sh*t at me

    Lets back track to where this all started...

    The initial post was to offer some insight to the power of OFF-PAGE Optimization (specifically Garnering In-Bound Links) and you Guys Jump all over me accusing me of all kind of BULL SH*T like I'm some kind of Villain with a hidden agenda.

    I did nothing but offer some sound advise!

    If anyone needs to chill, it would be you Pal
     
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