This pilot doesnt even believe 9/11 story!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Dude111, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. darksat

    darksat Guest

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    #21
    Might I point out that it dosnt really matter.
    You have a choice, the republican government are either corrupt or inept.
    These are your choices.
    1-They planned it.
    2-They let it happen
    3-They didnt stop it happening.

    Please pick, option 1, 2, 3
     
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  2. Village_Idiot

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    #22
    Thats a neutral, well backed opinion...
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #23
    It's rather evident from some of the verbage used in that video that that guy has never piloted an aircraft before.

    It's pretty sad when people try to cover up reality. Too many people watched this happen for it to have not happened..

    What exactly happened to the planes if it did not happen?
     
    Mia, Sep 25, 2007 IP
  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #24
    This was 7-8 G's without the flight suit engaged.

    That nut job in the other video said 5 G's... Many people pull that on a roller coaster....

    Either way, I think we can all agree that two planes did in fact hit the WTC... I don't think anyone here will publicly admit to something other than that fact.
     
    Mia, Sep 25, 2007 IP
  5. Rezo

    Rezo Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Here comes a stupid question.

    Why would the government want to do it? Just for blaming it all on terrorist?
     
    Rezo, Sep 29, 2007 IP
  6. The Webmaster

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    #26
    The troofers are funny.. They contradict each-other on many places.
    Some say, Planes weren't involved (Like this guy in the video). Some say Planes weren't flown by human(Oh yeah, rocking). What is common in them that they all are trying to convince that terrorists didn't do it, as if it is their pre-defined thought process. Shifting focus from terrorists to Something else....
     
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  7. mcfox

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    #27
    To give the US Government carte blanche to strip citizens of their rights and freedoms and also to be able to declare war unimpeded by public or international opinion, much like the Reichstag fire and subsequent Enabling Act of Nazi Germany.
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #28
    I find it kind of ironic that this "carte blanche" bs is always touted while in the same breath the US extends every freedom we have to people who do not even deserve it, like, Iran's president Ahlah-I'm-a-Jihad. :eek:

    What a great country.. While average citizens think their government is stripping them of their rights, people who do not even have those rights get them extended to them...

    Reason number 461 why the US is the free-est place on earth ;)
     
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  9. Valley

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    #29
    I could fly a 747 blindfolded into the towers and I am not even a pilot..................
    First I would place a GPS transponder on the roof, and then set autoplilot.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #30
    The bigger the plane, the easier it is to fly...

    Same rule applies to vehicles.. The bigger the vehicle, the easier it is to drive...
     
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  11. Valley

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    #31
    Problem Solution
    Problem Solution
    Problem Solution
    Keep them busy, war, drink, drugs (as long as it's theirs) media etc
     
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  12. DevilHellz

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    #32
    Usually, but these guys were an exception ;)
     
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  13. marketprobe

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    #33
    If the U.S. government had any sort of responsibility for the carrying out of the 9/11 attacks, that could quite possibly be the worst move it could make. That's a stupid thing to do.
     
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  14. Valley

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    #34
    And I guess landing is the most difficult part, tragically no training was required in this instance.
     
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  15. Valley

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    #35
    I think the words you are looking for are
    Novus Ordo Mundi
    Sometimes many of us look back at German polictics in the Thirties and the Holcast and say "How could they let it happen?"
    Referring to the german people of the Time.
    Perphaps we are all looking at the answer?
    It happens all around us every day and has done for
    years, maybe centuries.
     
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  16. mcfox

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    #36
    When I was a kid my Grandma used to tell me stories of WWII, the blitz, the Nazi atrocities / genocide and I used to wonder why the German people were so 'evil'. Now I realise the people weren't evil for the most part - they simply looked the other way long enough for evil to overtake them.
     
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  17. Briant

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    #37
    That's the way I see it. I don't worry to much about the conspiracy theories per se, since as you say, at the very least, they were inept. And they have continued to be inept with respect to the "war on terror." And this is without invoking any conspiracy theories.
     
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  18. Valley

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    #38
    SO true.
    A few of us talked over this over perphaps one too many bottles of wine a few months ago.
    I posed the question
    "If 9/11 could have been caused by a fearsomly strong organisation, capable of inflencing world polictics, war, banks etc polotics (get it!) . Then is it just remotely possible that Hitler too was having his strings pulled in the same way, and that this fearsomly strong organisation was actually backing Allied and Axis Forces at the same time?"
    The conversation went further back and asked the question, could this fearsomly strong organisation been around at the time of Christ, and if so, could they have been pulling strings even back then?
    Perphaps this where the phrase "better the devil you know" comes from
    Imagine if this were true and the devil was indeed an organisation or a group of famlies whom had throughout history manipulated people countries religions the lot?
    Suggest each of you go out buy a bottle of wine or too, and try it.
     
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  19. Jim4767

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    #39
    I strongly disagree with the pilot quoted in the video, who said, "I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it." I have a commercial pilot's license, with instrument and multi-engine ratings. That's the upside. The other side of that coin is that my total flight hours are quite low (about 400 hours). So that makes me a technically qualified pilot, but with quite limited experience. Very similar to the hijacker-pilots, who also had professional flight training.

    For those who are not pilots, flying is not rocket science. In fact, once a plane is airborne and level, any decent pilot could turn the flight controls over to you and you could be coached into clumsily keeping it basically straight and level.

    With my limited piloting experience (400 hours), I once was offered by a pilot acquaintance the opportunity to pilot a Lear Jet from altitude back to Sacramento Airport. I had never flown a jet, or anything even close to those speeds. But it was not the slightest problem (he took over for the final approach and landing). An aircraft is an aircraft, and the jet steered just like the smaller planes I had trained on. Just a whole lot faster!

    On another occasion, when I used to be an air traffic controller in Alaska, I was offered the chance to fly the F-4 Phantom fighter jet simulator. Once again, an airplane is an airplane. I was able to fly it in simulated night instrument conditions from 20,000 feet to a landing at the Air Force base without a hitch. Please understand, I'm not saying, "Look at me!" Far from it. I'm saying that airplanes of all sizes are flyable by anyone with even modest piloting experience.

    Takeoffs and landings? Well, that's where the professionals earn their money. But once again, any pilot with even basic flying experience can maneuver an aircraft around in the sky (and, sadly, into a building), if he doesn't have the far more complex duty of having to land it on a narrow runway.
     
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  20. Mia

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    #40
    Unfortunately, a great many, did not think they were evil. That is part of the problem.. The most innocent of the evil, were in fact evil...

    But hey, with a history like Germany's after WWI, it is rather easy to understand why people were so inclined to look the other way.
     
    Mia, Oct 1, 2007 IP