This Makes No Sense

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by NYSkyline, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. #1
    So I've been working with a client for about six months now, its a big company. I'm trying to get the 1 for a certain term and it makes no sense i'm not there. I have more backlinks, better quality backlinks, older domain age, excellent tags, higher PR than most of the guy ahead of me? Any suggestions to what might be going on?
    I guess they have less content on page, but I went through the other guys sites and counted how many times the term was said I'm trying to rank for and its about the same.
     
    NYSkyline, Jul 28, 2010 IP
  2. biztrendz

    biztrendz Member

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    #2
    Why not check their:

    - backlinks and the quality of their incoming links
    - internal linking strategy
    - their pages with unique content and titles?

    There are many factors you might be missing, just try to be yourself... In my professional career (as SEO), I have learned one important thing, "learn from your competitors". So you are doing the right thing by following your competitors (other guy). Try to concentrate on other things like, keyword placement, heading tags, anchor text and etc. Let me know if I am missing something.

    Good luck,
     
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  3. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    you may think so but in reality, you must not have done all that is takes to get to number 1 otherwise you would have been there. number of backlinks and higher PR dont mean much in terms of ranking. what is takes is the quality of links. quality is a relevant measure where some might think a link is a quality link but in reality, it may not be in the eyes of google. keyword density is also not very important and you dont have to match exactly as your competitors. some site may rank well with 1% keyword density where other site might have 7% density and not rank anywhere. just too many variables to consider. all i can say is that keep working
     
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  4. rahulamaze

    rahulamaze Active Member

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    Hi NYSkyline,

    Since really long time m working in SEO industry, and being a professional i always show my professionalism in my every project. Most of the people don't know or someone who know they not give importance that think, that is " Content ". I personally give very much importance to the content. If you need good traffic, good Google importance good business just get the unique and fresh contact for youe website, these " backlinks, better quality backlinks, older domain age, excellent tags, higher PR " i give priority to them but not as much as i do the contact.

    Thanks.
     
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  5. Borduhh

    Borduhh Well-Known Member

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    Check the relevancy of your links and such. Also why not just analyze the competitors links and then use that against them?
     
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  6. Brad Callen

    Brad Callen Peon

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    How new is your domain/site?
    Have you scanned and sought competitor links?
    Do they have keyword in domain, URLs, Titles, etc. and Do you?

    I have seen this happen where a site can have a powerful 301 redirect in place from a high quality site.. Without seeing the SERP, it's tough to say though.
     
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  7. ronniewilliams

    ronniewilliams Guest

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    hi,

    you must be missing some key points. first of all compare your domain with that of his. then check the quality of your backlinks. i know guys who have websites of PR 3 with less than 70 backlinks.

    Most importantly check the source code, i think you are losing at the On Page Optimization battle ground. Double check that!

    Regards,
    Ronnie Williams
     
    ronniewilliams, Jul 28, 2010 IP
  8. monfis

    monfis Well-Known Member

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    Congrats, looks like you got it. The most reasonable answer I have found here since a long time!!!
     
    monfis, Jul 28, 2010 IP
  9. Montreal Classifieds

    Montreal Classifieds Active Member

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    The parametets you listed, like age links pr, these are known ones. But google takes into consideration 200+, now including site speed. Unfortunately none of us knows what they are. But as per google spokesman, content is #1. Just make sure your content is unique and content getting changed. Try also add presence in social world, twitter can be good starting point.
     
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    really? you found it helpful, thats great. that's what we all are here. to share experiences!
     
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    zurpit.com Peon

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    Its not about number of backlinks, its about the relevancy of the backlinks and if the backlinks have anchor text or not. Also pr does not really matter much when it comes to ranking higher. Try to get relevant backlinks and you should rank higher.
     
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  12. Grimm

    Grimm Peon

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    It makes sense, you just haven't looked at the bigger picture yet. How confident are you that all of your applied SEO methods are fail-proof? You shouldn't only consider the amount of backlinks, excellent tags and the domain age. How about on page optimization? Keyword density? use of header tags? page speed? number of outbound links in a single page or for the whole website? duplicates? canonical URLs? 301 redirections? pages that needs to be blocked by robots?

    Also, PR shouldn't really be your basis in terms of ranking, they are merely numbers.
     
    Grimm, Jul 28, 2010 IP