This is just so weird... any help?

Discussion in 'Site & Server Administration' started by fryman, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. #1
    I just have no idea of what is happening here. I have a site. I modified my pages using Fronptage. I go to the site to check it, and the old pages are still showing up!! How can that be???? I doubled checked, and all the new pages are up on the server, how can I be getting the old ones if they don't even exist any more??? No matter how much I refresh, I keep getting the old page
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    fryman, Mar 17, 2005 IP
  2. expat

    expat Stranger from a far land

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    #2
    how did you check new pages are on the server?

    If so are you sure you loaded to the public directory (the directory that is shown to the public)?

    Have you cleared your browser cache?

    Expat
     
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  3. sadcox66

    sadcox66 Spirit Walker

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    #3
    1. Delete pages on server using FTP
    2. Shift+Refresh your web browser
    3. Upload pages using FTP/Frontpage
    4. Refresh browser
     
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  4. mopacfan

    mopacfan Peon

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    Solution: Get rid of frontpage ;)
     
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  5. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    OK, now this is getting scary. This site is a subdomain. I deleted all the pages, and I was still getting the old ones. I deleted the entire folder, and still the same. I went to my cpanel, deleted the subdomain, and when I type the address it is still there shoing the same damn pages!!

    If I delete a subdomain, shouldn't it stop working when I try to access it with my browser??
     
    fryman, Mar 17, 2005 IP
  6. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Never mind... something is really screwed up with this domain, it seems as if it is getting the data from some other place instead of my server. I will check it out tonight, last thing I need is taking my site down at peak hour and loosing money :D
     
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  7. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    This happened to me once...

    It took about 2 hours to realise that I wasn't putting the files in /wwwroot/ :rolleyes:
     
    SEbasic, Mar 17, 2005 IP
  8. NewComputer

    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    I think that some servers cache results. I have seen this with a domain that I have on a really bad server...
     
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  9. Corey Bryant

    Corey Bryant Texan at Heart

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    #9
    Hey SadCox - how are you? :)

    Fryman - make sure that you are publishing to http://www.example.com and not to anything else. If you are, FP will create that folder (sub-web).

    If you are using a sub-domain, then the URL to publish might actually be http://www.example.com/subdomain - depending on how the server is set up
     
    Corey Bryant, Mar 17, 2005 IP
  10. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Something is really screwed up and can't figure out what. I have an addon domain. If I change the homepage for that domain, nothing shows on my browser. I used to have it in shared hosting before moving it to my own VPS, so I thought that maybe the old host was still serving my site. However, I did a quick whois check and it shows my new nameservers, so I have no idea on what to do.
     
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  11. Corey Bryant

    Corey Bryant Texan at Heart

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    If you FTP into there - can you see the files? (Be careful with the FTP because it can corrupt your extensions.)

    When did you change this? Did you also maybe ping your domain from your compauter to make sure it is going to the correct IP?
     
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  12. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #12
    First thing to do, (assuming your observations have been correct thus far, specifically your actions in CPanel)..

    Your site appears to be proxied. Prolly your ISP rather than a local (server) proxy.

    Visit anonymizer.com and request your page. If you see the page, the data is either live on your server or proxied locally to your server.

    If not, it's proxied with your ISP.

    CPanel will trash the subdom (zone wise), but *WILL* typically leave your content in tact, usually as a folder within docroot for the dom.

    As you've already deleted the content directly via FTP, and deleted the subdom thru CPanel, the only thing it can be is local proxying thru your ISP.

    To get around it, and assuming your ISP hasn't firewalled you, disable proxies in your browser and try again.

    The only other (and highly unlikely) possibility is that your dom is resolving (root) to an alternate DNS. Even then, it would have to be pointing to a different VHost or server, as you've deleted the content locally.

    All told - wait a few hours and try it again.

    Cheers,

    JL
     
    john_loch, Mar 17, 2005 IP
  13. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Ok, did de anonymizer stuff, didn't work.

    I have one domain in an account (lets call it main domain). In there, I have a second domain as an addon domain.

    If I do any changes to the main domain, there is no problem, shows up right away in my browser. If I do any changes on the adon domain, no changes show at all on my browser.

    I had already worked on this addon domain without any problems a couple of weeks ago. Today I continued working and now I have this weird problem.

    Do you think it would be fixed if I delete the whole addon domain and create it again in my cpanel?
     
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  14. Corey Bryant

    Corey Bryant Texan at Heart

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    This add-on domain - where does it actually point to - a sub-domain of main domain?
     
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  15. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    It is a totally different domain, a main domain.

    Just to test it out I wrote a page with notepad that says test. uploaded it to the addon domain. Still no change at all on my browser.
     
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  16. Corey Bryant

    Corey Bryant Texan at Heart

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    Yeah - try deleting the domain maybe? I mean - it cannot hurt anything. I am not too familiar with Cpanel / *NIX (use Windows here)
     
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  17. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #17
    You are dropping the files in the addon domains subfolder aren't you ??

    It's the basic difference between a parked and add-on domain (the subfolder).

    Just ensure you are dropping the data in the relevant folder which lives within docroot for the domain you've added to.

    If that fails, backup the content, trash the add-on, and redo it. Remember that CPanel typically leaves the content there, and just removes the add-on domain from the DNS.

    Cheers,

    JL
     
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  18. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Thanks, john_loch. Yes, I am droping everything in the correct folder.

    I guess I will just trash the addon domain. I might as well create a new account for it with a different IP and not have it as an addon domain any more. The problem is that this domain has several subdomains that receive visitors all the time, even at 4 a.m., and having it down would mean lossing some bucks while the new IP propagates...
     
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  19. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    Unlikely you'll lose anything in traffic..

    I mean, you're not moving DNS, so I wouldn't worry.. (the IP is ultimately going to be resolved thru the same DNS - and cpanel/WHM restarts bind anyway)..

    It should be pretty much seamless.. :)

    Cheers,

    JL
     
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  20. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    I just did an IP trace and like I thought, the site from my old sharing host is still showing up. Don't knowwhy the DNS didn't change at Godaddy, it has been over a month since I changed it.

    I guess I will have to open a support ticket over there.
     
    fryman, Mar 17, 2005 IP