This is how the big boys grow their lists!

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by bertuseng, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. #1
    Everyone knows how to build a list. You get a freebie, like an ebook, create a squeeze page for it and drive traffic towards it using various methods. If you use only the common free traffic methods like article marketing, forums, bookmarking etc. you will probably just get about 5 - 10 signups per day if you are lucky.

    So how do the big guys grow their list so quickly without using PPC?

    Adswaps!

    If you can grow your list to at least 500 subcribers, you can leverage it by doing ad swaps to grow your list very quickly and easily. Adswaps mean that you broadcast someone else's ad to your whole list in exchange for them doing the same. You can do adswaps with people with lists a lot bigger than 500 and quickly grow your list. As your list gets bigger, you can do adswaps with people with bigger lists. Imagine getting 300 signups just from one email?

    There are various places on the internet and also on the JV thread on Warriors Forum where you can look for adswap partners, and it's really easy to do this, the only thing you need is to grow your list to at least 500 so that you can start leveraging it.

    So, for all the newbies, start using your free traffic generation techniques to quickly grow your list to at least 500 and start looking for adswaps to quickly grow your list!
     
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  2. SRLee

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    I have the traffic, just don't have the opt-ins. :p
     
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    yea i have an ok amount of traffic but i dont want to send that traffic a bunch of different links...
     
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  4. bertuseng

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    I you have a big list, you can let other people use their big lists to grow yours, it is mutual beneficial. Win win!
     
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    erm, yes good strategy... but who will trade lists?

    and what about targeting? For example if I have photography interested audience and I swap it with a get rich quick list - result will be absolute zero since it will not convert... on the other hand photography list owners will be reluctant to give you their subscriber list on the basis of competition...

    or maybe I didn't understand what ur saying :) please explain more...
     
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  6. Tj John

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    niece tips.... thanks for sharing information...
     
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    It's not hard to find complementary lists. For example, if you have a photography list, you might try and find a digital art list, or a video camera list. Lots of people who like photography also like videography, or have some digital skills to pep up their photos.

    Just be selective about your swaps, and think about the value on both sides. If the other list owner can't do anything for your list, turn it down. If you can't do anything for the other list, turn it down. Only do the swap when it's a true win-win situation.
     
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  8. Perry Rose

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    So the "big guys" use Adswaps?

    Name them.
     
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  9. CDarklock

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    Today alone, after a quick glance through the GMail account:

    John Vincent
    Paul Chow
    Chad Michaels
    Zech Smith
    Jeff Johnson

    All of these people have sent me an email today inviting me to fill out someone else's opt-in form to get a free report.

    Now, I don't know for a fact that this is an adswap exactly as described. Maybe it really is a favour for a friend, or a paid mailing, or even just something cool they found online (like they always pretend it is). But when you email thousands of people a link to a squeeze page and promise them a freebie? You can bet that page does some squeezin' for the next day or two.
     
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    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    Just about every single one of them....

    I'm on most of the big name guy's lists and I'm constantly getting offers to "check out my friends [whoever's] new program. [Insert affiliate link here]"

    Not only that but they promote the hell out of each other too. Amish Shah's program just got released today I believe and I've gotten like 50 emails throughout today and the past few days of everyone trying to promote it through their link. This happens every time a guru releases something.

    Leverage is key and that's how they make so much money.

    But they do provide really good content too so that's why I don't mind staying on their lists and plus I know it's the way things work. No big deal.
     
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  11. Perry Rose

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    How, exactly, are they considered the "big boys"???
     
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    It is better to have good traffic through the social networking websites.
     
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    Because they are authorities on the subject and they make a ton of money doing this stuff and everyone knows them.

    There's gurus in any market and they would technically be considered the big boys. Whether you like the people or agree with how they handle things or not, they got to where they are for a reason.

    Now there are a lot of big name marketers out there that send you nothing but BS and I could care less about them but some of these guys really do provide good content and that's why people buy from them.
     
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  14. Perry Rose

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    Oh, ok. those 21 words clarifies it, proves it. Thanks. I'm sold.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    All I ever see you do is come into threads trolling them and disagreeing with what everyone has to say.

    Ok smartass...what exactly is a "big boy" then since you claim to know everything around here? Because clearly big boys aren't the ones who make millions of dollars doing what they do right? They must be the ones that troll around DP all day making stupid comments and no money. I honestly could care less how much they make or that they are gurus or whatever.

    Your responses are always idiotic and make no sense. I don't think I've ever seen you contribute something useful to a thread just a spew of bullshit when you clearly know nothing about the subject.

    Now I'll be waiting for your response to say that you make [xxx,xxx.xx] a year and you know this and that. It's inevitable.
     
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  16. Perry Rose

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    You don't like my replies, Gomer, put my username in your ignore list.

    It's pretty obvious you have cardboard filling the space between your ears.

    Like that sentence you gave makes it so. :rolleyes:

    Give facts, sources, Nancy.

    Once again, not everything is sunshine and rainbows. There are posters here who have a brain, and we will question things.

    Sorry if that bothers you, and you want to read nothing but "hey that's great!"

    Get over it.
     
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    How exactly are they not?

    You seem to be confusing "big boy" with "800 pound gorilla."
     
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  18. Perry Rose

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    #18
    You seem to be confused right now, period.
     
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    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    You didn't answer my question. Who or what do you consider the big boys in marketing if it's not the guys that are successful and make a lot of money doing it? After all, people get into this for the freedom and the money, one or the other or both. So it's safe to say that this applies to the successful ones.

    Apply it to any field. The "big boy" car salesman is the one at the dealership that sells the most cars. The "big boy" lawyer is the one that wins most cases. Just like with marketing it's the guys that sell a lot of shit, have huge lists, and make good money doing it.

    You can have your opinion or disagree but those my friend are the facts...

    And I never said this is all sunshine and rainbows. I know it's hard to make good money online and it takes a ton of work. Which brings me back to my point that these big name guys had to work to get where they are at now. They didn't wake up one morning and have tons of money in the bank and automatically become a guru on the subject.
     
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  20. Perry Rose

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    Once again, how are they considerd the "big boys"?
     
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