Think Google ever have mercy?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by kadesmith, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. #1
    I've seen a lot of postings on DP about people being banned from Adsense. I myself am an adsense outcast (and yes I am one of the few that will admit it is in part to some of MY very own dumb behavior. hint: don't set up an intranet google search at your business and set it as the default page when employees log on).

    Anyway, I am curious if any of you out there think Google will ever have mercy on some of us stupid Adsense outcasts?

    For example: Say I wait five years...think they'll let me back in then if I'm still interested at that point and just tell them I did some dumb things the first time through? Will the other ad agencies such as YPN, bidvertiser, and MSN ever give Google enough competition that they might try to get publishers back, or is Google the new red since Russia pretty much isn't as scary anymore.
     
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  2. twodogs

    twodogs Banned

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    in my opinion

    no to everything
     
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  3. kadesmith

    kadesmith Peon

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    Yeah, I think I'm pretty much of the same opinion. I'm just curious to see if there is anyone out there who thinks otherwise.
     
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  4. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Google is a public listed company, it is not a human. It is governed by laws of incorporation and driven by profits and losses.

    It is also affected by demand and supply, if there are so many adsense publishers using Google, they have the absolute rights to be nitty picky and take the best. As a dominant player, supply is more or less controlled by them.

    For them to have "mercy" you can only hope for the successes of others like Microsoft and Yahoo. With these and other small advertising firms competing for the adsense publishers, power returns back to these publishers and at this point they can have a louder voice.

    But at present and for the foreseeable future, I do not see of any......
     
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  5. India Forum

    India Forum Well-Known Member

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  6. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    But how many in one succeed in this way? For most, once banned they are banned for life.
     
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  7. infopackages

    infopackages Peon

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    A few cliches that come to mind are:

    They don't forgive, and they don't forget.

    They're running a business not a charity.

    A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

    Summary:

    Maybe you have a family member that would let you set up an account in their name!
     
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  8. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    yes, they forgive once in a while but thats very rare. you have better chance hitting jackpot
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    Well they are a business so business and forgiveness don't comm along
     
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    They don't let you join back 99.9% of the time. I remember reading a thread here about someone getting their account back while I was browsing through the archives.
     
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    If you churned quite a bit of profit (assuming you played the game relatively properly and got banned for the odd wrong click) then you do have a chance of getting in even if it's small.

    If you setup adsense on your work intranet like you did, you won't get back - but that's just my opinion.
     
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  12. Whitey

    Whitey Active Member

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    Google will not forgive
    Google will not forget

    lol :)
     
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  13. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    There was quite a big issues about fraudulent clicks recently, now look at Google, Live and Yahoo all had huge advertising partners. Google had this additional Adsense which reaches out to the smallest of publishers.

    From the perspective of economy of scale, I really doubt Google is making money processing the clicks and payment of the small players. Given the very public outcry over the clicks, it makes sense to punish errant Adsense publishers to make it look like they are doing something about it. Punishing say 1000 small Adsense to them may be nothing as they may not be earning money processing such small publishers anyway. But the outcry it generated may be good enough for advertisers to feel that something is being done.

    IMHO doing so actually improve Google Adsense margins and in the same time improve their image as a fraudulent clicks fighter and protector of their advertisers.

    So in additional to those that were banned for fraud clicks we saw those banned for committing no wrong except their their web site is not suitable for Adsense.

    I hope that Live and Yahoo join this market but they may be comfortable just counting the big advertisers and not venture in what Adsense is doing. YPN beta has been going on for sometime, we have yet to see any expansion of the plans towards other countries or regions.

     
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  14. Napoleon

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    Mercy? You can't be a successful company with that.
     
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    #15
    Google is a bit evil, but in general they are quite fair.
     
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