they must follow Islamic codes such as head scarves for women in public.

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  1. MattUK

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    #101
    Did you read his post? The marriage was arranged while she was 9 and the marriage took place when she was 16.
     
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    #103
    One thing that I found that surprised me was that the age of consent in A LOT of countries even today is a lot lower than I thought it would be.

    http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

    Spain, Argentina - 13
    Germany, Italy, Austria - 14
    Mexico, Panama, Canada - 12!
     
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    #104
    OK despte the fact you're using this to play things down (as alwasy) ... this is interesting. Especially the ones where ?"is instead of an age. What does that mean? If her dad doesn't have a shotgun, you're good to go?:confused: :rolleyes:

    added: Canada> holy shit!!!
     
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    #105
    No, I'm still saying its' wrong. My point is that you cannot apply the standards of 1000 years ago to societies standards today.

    I think the ? means unknown, though I suspect it means there is no law. I remember reading about an island called Pitcarin which came under British law. There was a big court case a couple of years ago as most of the island was inbred and married people off in their early teens and younger.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...SFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2002/10/13/wpit13.xml
     
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    #107
    yes but now in 2006, many religions have learnt and become peaceful, except one
     
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    #108
    History didn't start in January :rolleyes:
     
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    #109
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet_Muhammad#War

    ...Muhammad turned to raiding caravans bound for Mecca. Caravan-raiding was an old Arabian tradition....


    .....In March of 624, Muhammad led some three hundred warriors in a raid on a Meccan merchant caravan.......

    The Battle of Khaybar was fought in the year 629 between Muhammad and his followers against the Jews living in Khaybar, an oasis located 150 kilometers (95 miles) from Medina in the area of Hejaz of the western part of the Arabian peninsula in what is nowadays Saudi Arabia.

    Contemporary scholars believe that Muhammad moved to attack Khaybar in order to raise his prestige among his followers, as well as to capture booty to sustain subsequent conquests.[1][2]

    The battle ended with Muhammad's victory, which allowed him to gain sufficient money, weapons, and support from local tribes to capture Mecca just 18 months after Khaybar.[3

    Muhammad as a military leader
    Main article: Muhammad as a general

    For most of the sixty-three years of his life, Muhammad was a merchant, then a religious leader. He took up the sword late in his life. He was an active military leader for ten years.

    Critics claim that Muhammad expanded his realm and imposed his religion by force. [citation needed] Muslim commentators, however, argue that he fought only to defend his community against the Meccans, and that he insisted on humane rules of warfare. [citation needed]
    The rules stated that women are not to be harmed or molested, children are not to be harmed. No non combatent is to be fought and if the enemy does not wish to fight you then escort him to a place of security.

    In reference to the Quran "fight those who fight you and do not commit aggression for God does not like those who commit aggression"
     
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    #110
    He was married to a rich widow and had nothing built himself, he was handsome and a good speaker, who developed over the years epilepsia.
    His people interpreted his "knock outs" as a sign of God and believed that this was the time when he communicated with him, that's what he also believed himself. He thought he's someone special and killed a priest who was in possesion of scriptures and changed it to his likeness.
     
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    #111
    Amazing.
    Be careful. Don't say this in a day light to a muslim with a knife.
    Rich
     
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    They question the circumstances of some of his marriages, such as those to Zaynab bint Jahsh, his adopted son's ex-wife, and to Aisha, who according to hadith was nine years old when the marriage was consummated.[33] (though there is reason to believe that she was in fact older and that the hadiths that state she was nine are weak)


    Critics of Islam typically accept the hadith stating that Aisha was nine, but reject the idea that she could have been pubescent, suggesting Muhammad's sexual relationship with Aisha necessarily renders him, as Dutch politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali puts it, a "pervert".[3]


    Additionally, Ibn Warraq argues in Why I Am Not a Muslim that "child marriages continue to be practiced, and the fact that the Prophet himself married Aisha when she was only nine and he was fifty-three encourages Muslim society to continue with this iniquitous custom."
     
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    #113
    Yes because all 'real' Muslim will kill you
    Just like all 'real' Christians kill people for working on Sundays :rolleyes:
     
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    #114
    Looks like someone's come back with a new nick ;)
     
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    #115
    That's a common knowledge among some people in iraq, because the priest was murdered there;)
     
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    #116
    Not, religious question. This question is not related to anybody. Anybody who is easily offended please don't read it.

    Can somebody with murder and rape charges (premeditated) be a righteous person? I would like to know for myself what a good deed means? I have nothing against anybody. I have to clarify this for my heart's sake, since I got very confused by reading some materials.
    Thank you,
    Rich
     
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    #117

    Hey why doesn't wiki have any pics of Mohammad? They have pics from the "Dark Ages".

    Come to think of it, just about everything I have wiki'd for has had a pic of some kind. No pics of Mohammad? What gives?
     
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    #118
    According to Google image search................

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    I kinda like this one: [​IMG]
     
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    #120
    Because if they had, muslim population around the world would have gonr crazy...
     
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