They dared to speak out against Israel in the US and paid a price

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #41
    The Palestian terrorist Grand Mufti al-Husseini was responsible and assisted Eichmann in the Holocaust. Yasser Arafat was the nephew of al-Husseini.

    Grand Mufti al-Husseini with Hitler
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    In 1940, al-Husseini requested the Axis powers to acknowledge the Arab right:

    ... to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy.

    He then spent the rest of World War II as Hitler's special guest in Berlin, advocating the extermination of Jews in radio broadcasts back to the Middle East and recruiting Balkan Muslims for infamous SS "mountain divisions" that tried to wipe out Jewish communities throughout the region.

    At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:

    The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by , he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.
     
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  2. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Correct. And as a muslim I still can't understand why you want to deny (not argue) it happened? I think it was Hitler that said: "Hate unites." That is why "the religion of peace" means love everyone except the Jews, or the Christians, or the infidels.
     
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  3. bfebrian

    bfebrian Peon

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    #43
    who said that I want to deny it?
    i just questioning, why we can not talk about it.
    if some party want to deny it, than let them show their facts.
    and the party that accept it, let them show their facts too.
    to me, it seem forbidden to discuss about holocaust, it just happen - period, no questions ask.
     
    bfebrian, Sep 18, 2007 IP
  4. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #44
    The holocaust is the most well documented historic event. Amongst high level historians there is absolutely no question weather it did or did not happen. The only thing in question are the actual numbers of people killed. One guy may think 4million, another 8million, and someone else may think 5million.

    And the Jews weren't the only ones killed in the holocaust. Lots of other religions and people from nations around the world were killed. When you think holocaust, the automatically think about the Jews, but there were supposedly something like 2million Christians also killed...amongst others.
     
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  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #45
    What is really amazing is that the Palestinians terrorists are responsible for the Holocaust.

    In fact, the same extremists that are denying the Holocaust are the ones that were responsible.

    It turns out that the Mufti, Eichmann, Himmler and Hitler conspired together to exterminate the Jews. Mufti's place as leader of the radical terrorists was taken by his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat leader of the PLO.
     
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  6. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #46
    Denying the holocaust is like denying your own existence.
     
    KalvinB, Oct 1, 2007 IP
  7. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #47
    The Mufti and Eichmann, Himmler and Hitler all sat down in the same room and planned this thing out.

    The Mufti escaped to Egypt to work with Sadat. With the collapse of Nazi Germany in 1945, the Mufti moved to Egypt where he was received as a national hero. After the war al-Husseini was indicted by Yugoslavia for war crimes, but escaped prosecution. The Mufti was never tried because the Allies were afraid of the storm in the Arab world if the hero of Arab nationalism was treated as a war criminal. From Egypt al-Husseini was among the sponsors of the 1948 war against the new State of Israel. His place as leader of the radical, nationalist Palestinian Arabs was taken by his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat. In August 2002, Arafat gave an interview in which he referred to "our hero al-Husseini" [The Mufti] as a symbol of Palestinian Arab resistance.


    Deny this:
    Sadat wore a swastika tie during a "peaceful" visit to Israel
    Sadat openly bragged of emulating two "great" historical figures, Hitler and the terrorist "prophet" of Islam, Mohammed

    Sadat openly bragged of emulating two "great" historical figures, Hitler and the terrorist "prophet" of Islam, Mohammed
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  8. bfebrian

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    #48
    why?
    what is the relationship between holocaust with my own existence?
     
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  9. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #49
    WOW! Now Palestinians, not Hitler, are responsible for the Holocaust?????
    This is the most ridiculous statement that I have heard in a long time. You really believe in a fairy tale.
    I guess I understand you. You do have to come with a reason to why you have stolen the palestinian lands.
     
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  10. bfebrian

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    #50
    palestinian also responsible for 9/11, don't you know that ? :D
     
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  11. KalvinB

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    #51
    what would you think about someone who denied that they existed?
     
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  12. bfebrian

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    #52
    so if someone denied holocaust, that person doesn't exist?
    so if someone denied god, that person can still exist...
    so if someone accept the holocaust, but then question the number, saying the number is much lower that 6 millions, the person is only half exist?
    :confused::confused::confused:
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #53
    Other than an ideological hatred for Jews, influenced by religious doctrine, why would anyone deny the holocaust and openly confirm they are delusional?

    The only people I've ever seen do so are ones that have already confirmed a dire hatred for Jews. That's why david duke (staunch Ron Paul supporter) was in Iran with ahmadinejad and the other Jew haters.
     
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  14. bfebrian

    bfebrian Peon

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    #54
    but giving 3 years in jail for someone who deny holocaust is ... *i can't find a proper word*
    open debate should be suitable... they all scholars...
    or simply... answering-holocaust-denial.com and is enough...
     
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  15. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Tell me something: what makes a muslim muslim: is it believing the Koran and hating all Jews or hating the Jews and then believe the Koran (kill all infidels). Which one comes first? I'm confused.
     
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    #56
    please, at least study about islam just a little bit before asking question about it.
    i'm a muslim, i'm not hating jews and i don't kill infidels....
    still confused?
     
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  17. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but it is only under Islam regimes that one needs permission before switching from Islam to another religion (Malaysia, Egypt, etc). Again, if I am not wrong it is in the Koran that you can't leave Islam and still go on living. You leave Islam you must therefore be killed. True or not?
     
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    #58
    I lives in Indonesia, in Indonesia you can switch any religion as you want...
    but you can't be an atheist, because in paper works, religions are mandatory.
    if you are an atheist, you pick any religion and just don't follow it, just to make paper works more easy.
    as i recall there are a christian singer, switched into muslim because he want to marry a muslim singer, after they are divorced, he switched again into christian.... and he died..... because of old age...
     
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  19. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #59
    You answered the question according to an isolated example. You still didn't answer the question according to Islam: Again, if I am not wrong it is in the Koran that you can't leave Islam and still go on living. You leave Islam you must therefore be killed. True or not?
     
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    #60
    Denying the holocaust is like denying the murder of Hussein.
     
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