There is no scientific evidence of existence of God

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by it career, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. ram4nd

    ram4nd Active Member

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    #61
    Well god is an explanation of things that the believers don't know. There wouldn't be any cellphones or computers if humans would have believed that they come from god. It's all up to us.

    I have talked with many people who believe in god. Most of them have grown in certain environments also some(definitely not all, but it's the statistics) are not the smartest persons, especially science wise.

    About the big bang. There are a lot of things yet to discover, we know so few about gravity and all the matters that exist. In the world of very small objects, I am talking about the things that atoms are made of. It seems that current rules of physics don't apply there.
     
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    #62
    It is your environment that determines what god/s you believes in. Get born in the Middle East of Muslim parents and you will believe in Allah. Get born in the West of Christian parents and you will be you will believe in Yahweh/Jesus the Christ. It's geography that leads one to choose a religion...not truth.

    That's what happens when one prefers to believe superstitious things and live their lives in self-imposed ignorance.
     
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  3. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #63
    Actually we do know a few things that could have taken place before the Big Bang . Also don't forget that Big Bang is still a theory . Don't be so sure about it .
     
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  4. pladecalvo

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    #64
    Enough to form a hypothesis??

    Ah..but it's a scientific theory and there's the difference.
     
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    pladecalvo Peon

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    #65
    ...because people feeling pain, hunger, love etc are everyday emotions. It would not be unusual to come upon someone who claims that he has just met a hungry man or a man who is in pain. It is not an extraordinary claim. But if one comes upon someone that says he has just met with an invisible supernatural omnimax deity that can walk on water, raise the dead, perform sundry other amazing miracles, such as dying and coming back to life and who is going to torture me for eternity unless I crawl on my stomach and worship him...now that IS an extraordinary claim and as such requires extraordinary evidence.

    If I told you that every night, a beautiful alien girl landed a spaceship in my garden and came into my house and had sex with me, I'd wager that you'd be asking for some evidence wouldn't you? Why do you think it should be different for 'god' claims?

    Faith is what you call on when the verifiable evidence tells you what you don't want to be true.

    No idea! Do you?

    Who's saying it does....other than theists who say their god created everything from nothing. And if nothing can come from nothing, that leaves you to explain where your god came from, who or what is it's 'creator'. Or perhaps you are going to pull the 'Special Pleading' card are you - 'These are the rules for EVERYTHING. Nothing can from nothing so we must have been created and as everything created MUST have a creator the only logical conclusion is that MY god exists. Oh btw MY god is an exception to those rules'.

    So you have no problem with your god always being there but you just can't wrap your head around the universe always being there huh?
     
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    #66
    FFS let's not argue semantics . We do know that atemporal existence is possible . Yes that's a theory as well . I do believe that there are a couple more things that could have existed before the Big Bang .

    And no just because you add "scientific" next to a theory doesn't make it a law . Despite years of research and existing applications we still have the Theory of Relativity while Gravity has been promoted to a full blown law . While it is impossible for anyone or anything to change our understanding of gravity we know that relativity can still be subject to change . This is due to the complexity and volatility of the subject addressed by the theory . If you want to find out the truth you do need to keep an open mind and "Question Everything" .
     
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  7. pladecalvo

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    #67
    I didn't say it did but it does offer objective, verifiable evidence to support it and that make a vast difference between 'theory' and 'Scientific Theory'.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;0xXgsndwxD4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xXgsndwxD4&feature=related[/video]
     
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    #69
    He takes his theory and runs with it.

    He says eplosions cause chaos. My logic suggests explosions do cause chaos but my thoughts suggest the big bang was/is very chaotic, on a massive scale. The universe is still chaotic, on a universal scale. We are just atoms within that massive existence, travelling on a rock on its way to the Sun.

    I believe we are lucky that this rock happens to have contained all the things required to create life, or final ingredients may have fell from the sky here well after the big bang. Since day one life itself has continually strived to better itself, hence we are where we are right now. We're lucky to be human (because we don't know any better) and we're lucky to be alive (because we don't know any better) but in the big picture it is us directing our own futures, and often limiting our own successes.

    What hasn't been explained is the force within us all, the thing that connects with other people on another plane, the thing that connects us all and often brings you in-sync with other people. What is that and where did that come from?
     
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    Huh?

    That "thing" evolved with us. We are strongly social animals. We live with other people about us all the time. We depend on other people all the time. Our ability to survive depends on us getting along with other people. And it has been this way over evolutionary time. Our early ancestors lived in social groups going back millions of years. They too counted on each other to survive. Cooperation was a necessity or they wouldn’t survive. This environment sets the stage such that any inheritable trait that promotes cooperation is a prime candidate for positive selection.
     
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