The whole industry is disappointed with Windows Vista

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  1. ritadebock

    ritadebock Peon

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    #21
    I'm also disappointed with Windows Vista!!!
     
    ritadebock, Aug 26, 2007 IP
  2. iAddict

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    #22
    Yeah, I don't think vista was that much greater than xp. I had expected a lot more out of it.
     
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  3. shinyangel

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    #23
    No compatiblity at all !
     
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  4. kemus

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    #24
    Vista is XP with looks and a new price tag. All of the exciting stuff (for us nerds) that was planned for it was dropped early, making this just an eyecandy upgrade.
     
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  5. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Maybe we will change our minds or they will change our minds afters Vista sp2.
     
    zangief, Aug 26, 2007 IP
  6. SEO Jeff

    SEO Jeff Active Member

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    #26
    I think Vista is leaps over XP in the developer stuff with new API's and tooling support. Vista's backend is a lot better over XP if you ask me as well. I honestly think a lot of folks are over hating Vista. Sure Vista has some problems and some stuff missing but it's not like Windows 3.1 by anymeans now is it?
     
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  7. XandroZ

    XandroZ Peon

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    #27
    Vista is not what Microsoft promised,for me it is just a pretty (inter)face ,who is not very optimized in using resources.

    "Safety and security is the overriding feature that most people will want to have Windows Vista for," Jim Allchin, Microsoft's outgoing Windows chief said a year ago.

    I tested myself the security of Vista from a Linux station and is a joke.
    Without a good firewall and antivirus you invite hackers on your computer.

    Like its predecessors, Windows Vista can be exploited in numerous ways by an external hacker or rogue insider. Here are some approaches that hackers can use:


    * Scan for open ports looking for running services that can be probed further.

    * Establish null sessions and enumerate the OS to detect various system configuration settings.

    * Gain access to the network via ARP poisoning using Cain & Abel in order to glean Windows passwords and other passwords off the wire.

    * Gain physical access to a Vista desktop or laptop system and obtain the password hashes out of the SAM (Security Accounts Manager) database files using a tool such as BartPE and then loading the hashes into a password cracking tool such as Elcomsoft's Proactive Password Auditor. Or, as an alternate, you can use Elcomsoft's new all-in-one bootable solution based on WindowsPE called Elcomsoft System Recovery. This will allow you (or an attacker) to reset the list of local user accounts, view account privileges, grant administrator privileges to any account, reset accounts, reset passwords and more.

    * Connect to Windows shares with previously cracked or easy-to-guess passwords and copy and/or delete sensitive files.

    * Exploit a missing patch and obtain a remote command prompt using Metasploit or CORE IMPACT.

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    another ting: Why Vista's DRM Is Bad For You

    Windows Vista includes an array of "features" that you don't want. These features will make your computer less reliable and less secure. They'll make your computer less stable and run slower. They will cause technical support problems. They may even require you to upgrade some of your peripheral hardware and existing software. And these features won't do anything useful. In fact, they're working against you. They're digital rights management (DRM) features built into Vista at the behest of the entertainment industry.

    The details are pretty geeky, but basically Microsoft has reworked a lot of the core operating system to add copy protection technology for new media formats like HD-DVD and Blu-ray disks. Certain high-quality output paths--audio and video--are reserved for protected peripheral devices. Sometimes output quality is artificially degraded; sometimes output is prevented entirely. And Vista continuously spends CPU time monitoring itself, trying to figure out if you're doing something that it thinks you shouldn't. If it does, it limits functionality and in extreme cases restarts just the video subsystem.

    Microsoft put all those functionality-crippling features into Vista because it wants to own the entertainment industry. This isn't how Microsoft spins it, of course. It maintains that it has no choice, that it's Hollywood that is demanding DRM in Windows in order to allow "premium content"--meaning, new movies that are still earning revenue--onto your computer.

    It's all complete nonsense. Microsoft could have easily told the entertainment industry that it was not going to deliberately cripple its operating system, take it or leave it. With 95% of the operating system market, where else would Hollywood go?

    What the entertainment companies are finally realizing is that DRM just annoys their customers. Like every other DRM system
    ever invented, Microsoft's won't keep the professional pirates from making copies of whatever they want. The DRM security in Vista was broken the day it was released. Sure, Microsoft will patch it, but the patched system will get broken as well. It's an arms race, and the defenders can't possibly win.

    Now some companies like Apple,Sony start to remove iin some products the drm system.

    The only advice I can offer you is to not upgrade to Vista. It will be hard. Microsoft's bundling deals with computer manufacturers mean that it will be increasingly hard not to get the new operating system with new computers. And Microsoft has some pretty deep pockets and can wait us all out if it wants to. Yes, some people will shift to Macintosh and some fewer number to Linux, but most of people are stuck on Windows. Still, if enough customers say no to Vista, the company might actually listen and some big companies just started.
     
    XandroZ, Aug 27, 2007 IP
  8. MrAlvarado

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    #28
    Ah this was a good post, I never knew this.
     
    MrAlvarado, Sep 6, 2007 IP
  9. zexy

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    #29
    Corporate clients don't have a single reason to switch to Vista.
    Home users are having some serious problems with games, etc.
    A big disappointment after more than 5 years of endless waiting for a new OS.
     
    zexy, Sep 7, 2007 IP
  10. rmartish

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    #30
    Nobody can disappoint like Microsoft.
     
    rmartish, Sep 8, 2007 IP
  11. bumpinthosebeats

    bumpinthosebeats Peon

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    #31
    i tried vista and i didnt like it as much as XP. although im a mac user anyways haha
     
    bumpinthosebeats, Sep 8, 2007 IP
  12. georgecotton

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    #32
    Comon, seriously what were you expecting. Its a bigger jump from windows 2000 to windows me, and nobody seemed to care. Heck its A much bigger jump that 95-98.

    And they costed just as much.

    Microsoft didn't give you any less than they said it would...And in the 6 months I've been running it (I was running beta's before as well) I have had no compatibility problems, And I don't use big brand name hardware
     
    georgecotton, Sep 8, 2007 IP
  13. rmartish

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    #33
    Your one of the few who is happy with Vista by a large margin most are not. The industry shows that Microsoft is having a hard time selling Vista and for good reason.
     
    rmartish, Sep 15, 2007 IP
  14. flash902007

    flash902007 Banned

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    #34
    i wasnt aware the industry professionals such as acer etc all were having bad thoughts about vista. my overall opinion on the software is its great. i love it.
     
    flash902007, Sep 15, 2007 IP
  15. rmartish

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    #35
    It's hard to convince people to upgrade there OS when there current runs so great. Why upgrade when your old OS runs faster and needs less resources then the new one.
     
    rmartish, Sep 16, 2007 IP
  16. PalmIslands

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    #36
    Then you are not a Microsoft shareholder :D

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=msft&d=v1
     
    PalmIslands, Sep 16, 2007 IP