The value in page rank

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by forumbooster, Mar 14, 2006.

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    I was wondering is their a general value accessed for websites depending on the page rank?

    If all factors were the same what should someone get if their page rank was a 3, 4 , 5 or 6?
     
    forumbooster, Mar 14, 2006 IP
  2. AfterHim.com

    AfterHim.com Peon

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    No general value can be assessed. more importantanly is income and expenses.
     
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  3. Canada Web Design

    Canada Web Design Active Member

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    I know im going to get flamed for this but google page rank does not matter, it is nice to trade links with but it does not matter, I have seen many top ranking sites with little page rank. The only reason this is, is because they went for content related links rather then sites that have high PR, but you notice when you check your links in google most of them are only content related sites that they actually show. This does not mean that google doesnt know about the rest of your links. Forget PR, what I would suggest is point all your PR links to a directory and then just shoot for content related.
     
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  4. Mister Tut

    Mister Tut Guest

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    I doubt you'll get flamed for that. That is a very reasonable stance- one that I share.
     
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  5. AfterHim.com

    AfterHim.com Peon

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    you might get flamed for being wrong...but that isn't as bad as getting flamed for spam :)

    I remember matt cutts saying to someone that his site didn't have a high enough page rank to get indexed deeply. Page rank does matter, maybe not to you, but to google it does.
     
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  6. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Are you talking about buying/selling links? If so, there is no rule because it would depend on the sector of the site that has the link, how it ranks, and most importantly, how many outgoing links the page has. Every outgoing link devalues the PR an individual link passes. I wouldn't advise buying links, but links of a PR6 and higher seem to have a fairly good market.

    Remember, PR does not equal better rankings. Backlinks from relevant sites are what counts. Generally speaking, authority sites will tend to have higher PR, but PR is a result of being an authority site. A PR4 site with relevant backlinks can easily out rank a PR6 site that got its PR from non-sector related sites.
     
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  7. dfsweb

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    I would have to disagree with you agree with AfterHim. PR does matter. As he said, maybe not to you but to Google it does.

    As far as the sites that appear in the top 10 without a PR or very low PR, this can usually happen in a couple of cases:
    1. The PR of the page appearing in SERPs is quite low, but the page belongs to a high PR site. There are a lot of huge high PR sites that seem to rank for just about anything fairly shortly after publishing a page about it. Ex: news sites, major forums etc. Some of these pages never get a toolbar PR but the main site is a high PR which affects the SERPs as well.
    2. The PR of the page "appears" to be low as the toolbar is not updated for months at end. The actual PR of the site that is used by Google to calculate SERPs might be much higher than displayed on the toolbar.

    If you were to set-up a site and not link to it from any site, you will NEVER appear in Google, as it won't ever index your site. If you were to only link it from one PR0 page (say) for experimental purposes, you might get indexed (even completely) eventually, but you won't get a good ranking for (even moderately competitive) keywords.

    Links count a lot towards SERPs and it's kinda intrinsic to think that PR does as well. As you add more links, your PR gradually goes up as well. Just my 2.5 cents .....
     
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    Dakait Banned

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  9. forumbooster

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    Yes, I was thinking about this when it came to buying/selling links, what costs would you guys consider when purchasing such a link?
     
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  10. Foggy

    Foggy Link and Site Buyer

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    You may not be talking about the same thing. Toolbar PR doesn't matter to Google. The parallel PR (algo PR?) that they seem to be running does. But, and this is the controversial part, it may or may not play a big part in the algo. The citation based model has taken a big hit in the last few years as link exchanges etc have warped the picture. Google has no option but to keep gradually eroding the importance of PR in deciding SERPs.

    Saying that, it is undoubtedly the case that a few links from a few healthy, authority sources will do your site a lot of good. That those authority sites tend to have a lot of PR ... is neither here nor there.
     
    Foggy, Mar 18, 2006 IP