The US was right to invade Iraq!!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Adsenseking44, May 27, 2007.

  1. Toopac

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    #41
    I think it's great that you see Bush as as the biggest terrorist, you must think the people that you support are really under threat.
     
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    #42
    Won't happen so i guess he's talking crap as usual:rolleyes:
     
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    #43
    I'm not looking for ideally and what he'd like. I'm focusing on reality. Israel is not going to pack up and leave. That's why he supports terrorists in lebanon, isn't he? Because he envisions a military solution to kill the jews and take over Israel. Isn't that the more likely and probable outcome?

    Since that's the case, parsing a word or two is irrelevant, isnt it?
     
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    #44
    BTW they would still be on the map won't they if they did the above, that won't wipe them off the map will it?
     
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    #45
    His intention isn't to "kill jews" no more than our intention was to "kill germans" in the second world war. There is a wrong that needs to be righted.

    He wants palestinians given back the land that belongs to them.
     
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    #46
    Read my post about him being mistranslated from Farsi to English. Either that or learn Farsi yourself and report back.

    He wants the Zionist regime removed. Not the Jews and not Israel. The Zionist regime.
     
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    #47
    Remind me again why he supports terrorists whose goal is to kill as many citizens (civilians, jews) in Israel then? Obviously, his reality contradicts your oddly favorable opinion of him. He gives money/weapons to Hamas. He cheers with they kill Jews. I don't see how you can miss the obvious connection here.

    Do you agree that there is a wrong to be righted in Israel? That the "regime" needs to be removed?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #48
    Why not read upon him yourself:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad

    There's an old thread here somewhere, were akula was trying to defend his bud against saying he was going to wipe Israel off the map.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #49
    It has no factual basis. Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.
     
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    #50
    I guess it depends how you define "terrorist" (unless you want to band it around like a reporter on FOX who calls everyone from the guy that smokes at a bus stop to the guy who takes library books back late a terrorist).

    Hamas are a political group with an army. Thier goal isn't to kill Jews, It's to retrieve Israel from them and give it back to the palestinians. yes, Some civilians have died in hamas attacks, Just like some civilians have died from Israel attacks. Do you think they drop flowers and and love letters during a war? Grow up.
     
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    #51
    It isn't what i'm saying, it's what Farsi speakers are saying.
     
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    #52
    So, if Israel if lobbed a bunch of missiles into Lebanon, killing civilians at random. Sending people strapped with bombs to blow up buses and malls. You'd tell everyone to "grow up, its okay" ?

    Or is this a one way sort of acceptance?
     
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    #53
    I'm saying it's a reality of the situation. Surely if you believe Hamas are "terrorists" you must also believe Israel are terrorist if they do the exact same thing? Or is this a one way sort of acceptance?

    Israel may not necessarily have committed suicide bombings, But hamas doesn't have the luxury of an american funded military like Israel have.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #54
    And you are parroting what they say.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#2005_.22World_Without_Zionism.22_speech
    Even if you choose to live in denial, there's no mistaking his intentions. Funny, no mandatory mention of Fox news there.
     
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    #55
    You are correct. Israel does not lob missiles into Lebanon. Lebanon lobs missiles into Israel. Israel also does not put people on buses with the purposes of blowing up civilians. Hamas does do this. So you agree with me. Hamas is terrorist. Israel is not.

    And somehow you think that their cause is still legitimate.

    Again; do you think there is a wrong in Israel that needs to be fixed? Should the jews pack up and leave or be killed in order to free israel?
     
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    #56
    The only thing that makes any sense to you GTech is the hogwash that FOX News feeds you every day. :rolleyes:
     
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    #57
    I'm simply telling you what they are saying. It makes me laugh that you, Someone who is incapable of speaking Farsi (and probably have a hard time with English), are so certain of what someone has said just because it has been reported that way. And yet you are still unable to explain how a non-English speaker could come out with an English turn of phrase such as "wipe off the map".

    To quote you; "Just because you say it, doesn't make it so."

    yes, He wants to see an end to Zionism. I haven't denied that. But don't let the truth and facts get in the way of your agenda.
     
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    #58
    Sorry? What planet are you on? I was under the impression i was speaking to an earthling who has a passing acquaintance with world politics over the last 5 years.

    Not only have they "lobed missiles" into Lebanon, They have also illegally used cluster bombs. Most of which were dropped shortly before their "ceasefire".

    But they are the good guys, Right?
     
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    #59
    The only missiles Israel "lobs" into Lebanon are during actual conflicts and at military targets. You seem to confuse this concept with having missiles lobbed into peoples' backyards and schools. Get the difference? Keep ignoring the obvious.

    Glad you put ceasefire in quotes. Because Hamas still lobs missiles into Israel since then. And they are rearming and have 20,000 missiles (under the nose of the UN) in range of Israel. I suppose these are for the peaceful elimination of the Zionist regime right?

    Again; do you think there is a wrong in Israel that needs to be fixed? Should the jews pack up and leave or be killed in order to free israel?
     
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    #60
    I put the ceasefire in quotes because neither side abided by it. They were as bad as one another, But don't let that make you take your rose coloured glasses off, The Jews are still the good guys, Right?

    I believe the current israelis were wrongly given the land by people who had no right to give it away. There were people lving there who were moved out. The palestinians.

    If you and your family were moved out so others could move in you'd feel wronged, Wouldn't you? I know i would.
     
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