It is funny how this topic keeps rising from the dead. I have'nt made many post in this forum so I do not know if what I have to say will hold much weight. In either case I think this needs to be said. Why do people keep saying that meta tags do not matter? Or Google and Yahoo do not use meta tags? Or that Page rank means nothing anymore. The myths go and on and on. But let's face it, do you really have the anwsers to those questions? Every thing we post is just theory, although I'll admit that most of them are pretty good. The truth is google has never said that they do not use meta tags, nor has yahoo said it either. So why do people keep saying that. Google has never said that page rank is useless in their eyes, but I do remember them saying this "The heart of our software is PageRankâ„¢, a system for ranking web pages... PageRank continues to provide the basis for all of our web search tools." http://www.google.com/technology/index.html I recommend you read the rest of what they say on that page as well so you will have a better understanding of the importance of page rank and how it helps your website. The only way that your site would not benifit from this is if you are trying to abuse the system. The search engines are not stupid they know when you are trying to pull a fast one on them, it might take a minute for them to catch it, but they will find it sooner or later. I think the main problem is that to many people are trying to find ways to get around these search engines, if you want to waste time looking up the lastest tricks or trying the newest seo software program you will only find yourself waiting longer to get there. The truth is there is no magic trick to getting on these search engines, you just need to play by the rules, if you do that then there souldn't be a problem. Some might argue and say "I've done everything google and yahoo has ask for but my site is still not ranking the way it should" Ok, but did you really? Do you really have all of the pieces put together? Or did you just implament the ones that you thought were the most important? I can tell you that if you are just going out and buying high pr links, and think that will do the trick then you are wrong. If you think that just because you have tons of anchor links pointing to your site will work by itself then your wrong again. Sure that will work if you are targeting something like "glass blue dophins" or some other keyword that only has a low competiton level. But try that for a keyword like "search engine optimization" or "website design" or some of the other more aggressive keywords on the market. If you really want to make some money from your website or get there faster, and don't want to do what it really takes to get to the top then buy some ad words, you will save yourself some time and maybe even money if you do it right. Search engines will always be able to read straight html static web pages, all the other stuff just makes things faster. I pefer to build my sites by hand the good old fashion way. And I have never had a problem with my sites even during this deindexing thing. But that is just me. I've worked for some pretty darn good seo companies in the past and still do work for some which because of contract I will not mention in an attempt to promote my own website. And reguardless if you believe it or not, if you want to get on goolge then I highly recommend you follow the guidelines they have laid out: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769 So to sum this up my advice is let's stop spreading the myths it only makes us look bad. If you want to get to the top then work hard at it and you will get there, or if you have the funds then pay a high powered company to do the job. I don't think I can say it any clearer than that. I'm sure some will disagree with this and that is fine, but before you do. Where does your site rank? And under what keywords? Thanks for reading. And good ranking to all.
Especially I like when you say this : and then linking to your directory where of course we can find Online Marketing Advisors I didn't even read all and I already knew it is great marketing approach you have here
This is not about marketing my website. I just felt that the information I posted would benifit others. As for the stuff at the bottom, I have not seen to many post here or in any other thread not place what they do or the services they provide at the bottom, so am I wrong for doing that?
Correction! Do'nt mean to be rude. But you are ranking #8 on yahoo for online movie rental. Don't get me wrong that is still pretty darn good.
Nothing is wrong hehe ... I like your approach and I learned something else not what you were writing about if you know what I mean
Your right! Maybe I should have called it "how not to get on the search engines". Listen if you are offended by this post then please do not reply to it. Let's not discourage others from learning something they may not know. I did not post this to start some kind of seo war.
What you see may be correct. That is just what I see on my end, no need for me to lie. By the way added your site to my directory you view the listing here. http://www.index-it.net/discounts/discounts.html Good job!!! Nice looking site.
Yes PageRank is very important... but people can't waith ... and if they don't recive results in 1 day they thinking "hey backlinks is not working!"
I agree. Being able to site back and waite for something to happen is hard some time. But it doesn't happen over night, it takes time to get the results that you really want.
Ok then, does page rank = higher SERPs and more traffic though? As far as meta-data, you'd be suprised at their importance. I shall keep tat under my (white) hat though... So, what's the word? Do you think PR affects SERPs and traffic? Dave
Nothing wrong with holding secrets. Page rank by itself can not boost your traffic. Nor will page rank by itself boost you to the top for a certain keyword. Here is a cheesy example. A car will start without tires, it will even move a little bit, but if you want to get were you are going faster then you might want to put some tires on it. Does that make sense. Like I said, build with a site with everything needed, not just bits and pieces.
Ya, it's a screwy beast. I always advise relevant content anyways. Not really for SEM, but for sales (conversion rates) reasons. It's a part of the process (attract-capture-educate-sell). None of the clients I have or the companies I own are of a 'community' nature. Meaning gaining traffic to try and make $$ from AdWords etc.. They are e-commerce or for branding/support services/prodcuts generally. I monitor thousands of pages for analytics and do reports etc.. I cna tell you I see PR2 sites with more searcdh traffic and better SERPs than site swith a PR6. SO be aware. Don't get myopic on PR. I could babble on this forever as I have done a bunch of research into this controverial area. That's just some personal experiences. Add it to the pot of 'theories'. In the end, to me, it's about conversions. If it's a product,a service, newsletter sign ups or adsense, how many visitors are converting. Maximize what traffic you have before you go looking for more. My thoughts on it at least. Talk soon Dave
The only truth that I subscribe to in SEO is that there is no free lunch-at least when thinking long term I've still got a lot to learn, but our long-term strategic approach (rather than a short-term quick fix type of approach) has served us very well.